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[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 144 points 1 week ago (31 children)

Explanation if any of our foreign cousins want it.

Tea, short for tea time.

In the South you used to (and still do) have the following three meals a day:

Breakfast, lunch, dinner.

In the North, however...

Breakfast, dinner, tea.

Both might tie the end of the day off with supper too. Brunch is for the jobless middle class and wandered into the conversation with yuppies in the 80s.

There's also a tea break, which is usually just a cup (or mug if you are a ruffian) of tea. Not to be confused with tea time, where you might reasonably expect to eat your dinner.

Then there's high tea, which yes, features tea. Often a pot and almost never a mug. It frequently comes with anemic sandwiches and perhaps a scone.

I hope that clears things up.

[–] mr_satan@lemmy.zip 71 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hope that clears things up.

Not really. You had me in the first half, tho.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Right? I'm clearly far too American to understand. I'm more confused than I was before.

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Dinner, as the main meal, used to be closer to midday in agrarian times, with the evening meal being a light supper. Only the industrial revolution, with workers spending most of the working day in the workplace, changed this.

[–] BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

Where my family’s from, that naming convention is still used.

Breakfast - first meal of the day

Dinner - midday meal

Supper - evening meal

Lunch - a small snack with no specific time

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Interestingly most Psych units I've worked (US) serve (roughly timed):

0800 - breakfast

  • along with a lightly caffeinated coffee or tea, the only caffeine routinely served

1200 - lunch

1700 - dinner

2000 - snack

  • usually prepackaged chips and crackers, sometimes cookies or ice cream. The long stay hospital gave the patients 25¢ for every group they attended and they could order nicer stuff from the staff member who made the weekly Walmart trip.
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[–] OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Then there’s high tea, which yes, features tea. Often a pot and almost never a mug. It frequently comes with anemic sandwiches and perhaps a scone.

Wrong way round.

High tea is/was the working class term for an evening meal as it was had at the table, and it would usually include cooked meat.

Afternoon tea is the posh one in the afternoon with the cucumber sandwiches with the crusts cut off.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Interestingly, in Canada "high tea" is a fancy afternoon tea with little sandwiches and desserts. Often something you can book at posh hotels like Fairmonts.

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I somehow feel more informed and more confused at the same time.

[–] thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What about second breakfast?

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago

10 o'clock tea and elevenses could both reasonably fit the bill here I feel.

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 95 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 week ago

British people:

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

I guess the argument could be made that chicken soup is a tea

[–] squigglycunt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

i did not expect british diogenes

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There also was a contemporary nuncheon "light mid-day meal," from noon + Middle English schench "drink."

https://www.etymonline.com/word/lunch

It's fucking beverage all the way down in English.

Bonus:

BRIBE. Lunch'd O dear! Permit me, my dear Mrs. Prattle, to refresh my sponge, upon the honey dew that clings to your ravishing pouters. O! Mrs. Prattle, this shall be my lunch.

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[–] Oppopity@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's morning tea which is a light meal between breakfast and lunch.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And there's tea time, which is dinner, and also tee time, which is a golfing thing.

And there's also the long dark tea time of the soul, which is a book by Douglas Adams

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 19 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Why is this usage of tea so confusing for everybody? We re-use words all the time in English. It's a very simple concept. Imagine if a musician asked about the key of a song and everybody was like "KEY? LIKE A CAR KEY? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? SONGS DONT HAVE KEYS! IVE NEVER BEEN SO CONFUSED IN MY LIFE"

Up north we say "tea" for evening meal. That's it. Explanation sorted.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Terrible example and it's just demonstrating that you can't put yourself in someone else's shoes for even a moment.

You understand that usage of tea because you used it your entire life, someone who hasn't would rightfully be confused.

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ok it was a deliberately silly example for emphasis. Here's a real example. I went to Australia once and in the airport somebody referred to my Mentos as "lolly". To me, lollies are on a stick. Apparently not to aussies. It threw me off for half a second, but that's it. Confused is an overstatement.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 11 points 1 week ago

Yeah but the context clues are a hell of a lot easier there. You're holding an object, and if someone called it a chupa-chupa or a sucker most people would be able to put that together pretty easily

Now imagine you're going through stretches and someone walks in and is like "oh, playing football are you". You could be preparing to go outside and play football... But you're just stretching

I think most people would be confused by that unexpected second meaning of a familiar word

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago

Imagine you are cooking a chicken. Your flatmate walks in, sees what you're doing, and says, oh, are you making coffee?

You wouldn't be just a little bit confused at first?

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

But when my Irish friend wants to smoke a cigarette, everybody loses their fucking mind.

[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It still confuses me that I can have a cup of coffee with somebody without actually drinking coffee. (In English and my mother tongue as well.)

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

As a coffee drinker, if I was invited for some coffee and did not in fact get any coffee I'd be both a little confused and a little annoyed.

[–] MrEnitity@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In Brazil, "café da manhã" (morning coffee) is the term for breakfast, but it's often shortened to just "café."

There was a mobile blood donation set up during Covid and I asked the group chat if it was okay to have coffee before donating, and the response was, "Yes, you should definitely be well-fed before donating blood."

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[–] tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

bruh because it's confusing that a meal is named after a beverage, it's not the double naming that's confusing

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah, but as someone who grew up down south and has lived in the north for the majority of my life:

Breakfast, lunch, dinner

Very clear, no fucker doesn't know what you're talking about

Breakfast, dinner, tea

What the fuck are you playing at, skipping lunch and having a drink to compensate?

Get in the sea

Tea is important enough in this country to not use the word again, especially not for the second most important thing: dinner

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[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

It's ok how much you like tea. I'm sorry they hurt you about it. Tea is super neat and fun and good. You are super neat and fun and good.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 16 points 1 week ago

If they didn’t want to have tea, why the fuck were they making it at tea time?

[–] Sunschein@piefed.social 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, according to British Standard 6008 (ISO 3103), the preparation of a liquor of tea requires a tea leaf.

I don't know why I have that knowledge in my back pocket, nor the urge to share that information, but there you go.

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Is that like how every soft drink is a coke in the American south?

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Have I been confused this when time? If I get invited to have tea am I being invited to a meal? I thought it was like getting coffee.

[–] Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Offer of a hot beverage:

  • Would you like a tea?
  • How about a tea?
  • (Shouting from kitchen) - Tea?

Even less ambiguous if cuppa/brew etc. is used Typically only offered in the morning or afternoon if you have just 'popped round'.

Offer of dinner:

  • Would you like to stay for tea?
  • Come round mine for tea
  • Have you had tea yet?
  • Oh you should stay for tea

Typically if you you weren't intending on staying or are being explicitly invited over.

Don't see how any of this could be confusing at all to people not born into it with innate understanding 😅

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[–] doleo@lemmy.one 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Haha, wow! People in different cultures have different words for different things!

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago

yes and we're celebrating that here. it's very human and expands people's horizons.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago
[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago

It was a subtle hint to request tea be made by the person already using the oven/stove.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Apparently some Australian families refer to the midday meal as "dinner" instead of "lunch" which I only learned after hesitantly sitting down for "dinner" at 1pm.

[–] filcuk@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Very common in the UK too. Lunch is dinner, dinner is dinner, dinner is tea, tea is also a specific type of afternoon meal (scones and sandwiches).
Even then, people will just say something like 'morning tea' instead of breakfast.
It's a linguistic war zone.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And if you want actual tea, you ask for a 'cuppa'

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[–] JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What the fuck.
Have never heard anyone call lunch anything other than that, unless it is a tradie who might say 'smoko' for lunch or a 15 minute snack break.

Aussie terms for meals:
Breakfast/brekkie
Morning tea/smoko*
Lunch (or brunch if its ~9-11am)
Afternoon tea/arvo tea*
Dinner/Tea
Dessert/Sweets*

*morning/arvo tea are primarily for social sit downs and would be like biscuits/scones and a cup of tea/coffee (having a cuppa with friends/family, small meetings with clients, retirees with nothing better to do)

  • dessert/sweets is if your having something after dinner, like some pie/crumble with ice cream, pancakes, etc)

Also 'entree' is a small course before the main meal in dinner, the USA confused the fuck out of me when i visited.

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[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Back in the day, the noon/midday meal was called dinner also in the US. Particularly in rural areas. And for some of us boomers it's still dinner. Growing up on a farm, Breakfast was 6am-ish thing after chores were done, (you could sneak in some jelly toast before chores if you weren't to lazy to get up early enough), the noon dinner, and you always came home to eat it, was a full meal deal because you had spent your morning often doing heavy manual labor. Plus your afternoon was going to be no different. You got lunch a 4pm because supper was a 7pm-ish meal, (often heavy on the "ish" part depending on what went wrong during the afternoon).

We evidently didn't get the memo about changing dinner to lunch until much, much later. Besides, we would have needed to rename "lunch" to something else for the 4pm break. I still call the noon meal dinner to this day. You can call it whatever you like, because I don't sweat those details.

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[–] MajesticTechie@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We also say "tea" when referring to gossip.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I suppose hot chicken broth could be considered a tea?

Careful with that kind of thinking! If you don't watch out, you risk entering Salad Theory territory 😬

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