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    OP doesn’t understand the AUR (lemmy.world)
    submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by cannedtuna@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    TranscriptScreenshot of Octopi Package Manager installed on CachyOS (previously the default before being replaced by Shelly). OP has searched for microsoft-edge. No results are returned.

    OP has drawn a circle around a button in the image of an alien head with an arrow pointing to it. Under the arrow is “????”.

    Caption at the bottom of the image reads: “Microsoft edge and google chrome don’t show up in neither of cachyos’ software stores out of the box. On octopi you can make it show up by pressing the weird alien head icon. “Mysteriously” firefox shows up on both stores immediately without clicking any obscure buttons. This is either extremely terrible i design or a deliberate sabotage attempt against microsoft and google from loonix devs, possibly sponsored by mozilla.”

    Context:

    OP is an idiot because these browsers would not be available due to restrictions required by Microsoft and Google to share their software, which is why nothing shows up when searching the installed repositories. Note that Chromium, the base for Edge and Chrome is available on the default repository.

    The alien head icon searches the AUR (Arch User Repository) a place for users to add packages, often mirrored from GitHub, which would show Edge and Chrome as a user has ported it over unofficially. Because the AUR consists of unofficial packages, it is not part of the default repositories, and requires additional confirmation before installation.

    Note that when installing from the AUR, it is always important to read what you are compiling as packages are not checked for malicious code. See recent news regarding compromised packages that weren’t maintained.

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    [–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

    I used edge from the aur for ages a while back

    [–] end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

    ...but why?

    [–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 9 points 15 hours ago

    I'mma tell my grandkids that this was the sign you had an Alienware PC.

    [–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

    r/linuxsucks is satire

    [–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    Was. Also, the chans were satire. The people who can't read satire came in after.

    [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

    This is how flatearth and birdsarentreal started.

    People mistook satire for the real thing, latched on, it grew grew and grew, and now here we are dealing with this shit.

    I 100% see how people like Joseph Smith or Muhammad got a following. Just be super confident that you're right, get a few followers, and build the organization from there.

    Fuck, I should do that. At least I'd be somewhat sane about it.

    [–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

    I don't think flat earth ever left.

    [–] mosspiglet@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

    See L. Ron Hubbard

    [–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 19 hours ago

    Bro. Taking this sub seriously can rot your brain. I mean, they are serious about their claims. It's just that they are being paid by microslop to be stupid or because they are stupid.

    [–] northernlights@lemmy.today 69 points 1 day ago

    Dude installs Linux, 1st reflex is to try to install Edge. Dude is completely lost and should get a mac if he's tired of Windows, so it decides everything for him.

    [–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    What I find surprising is that they managed to install a linux and in that process didn't pick up the slightest hint of what linux is about. I mean did they just download any iso willy nilly and slap it on there, no questions whatsoever asked?

    [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

    I mean that's how I got started in 1996...

    [–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 203 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

    possibly sponsored by mozilla

    This is funny as shit

    [–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Guess we’re already at the point where people make up wild conspiracy theories just to criticize Firefox.

    [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 day ago

    Always have been 🔫

    The kind of bullshit I've seen here on Lemmy alone.

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    [–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

    👽

    [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

    There's a nugget of truth here.

    Linux distros require some understanding of underlying subsystems.

    Windows... in theory, does not. From AverageUser9000's perspective, they can hit the Windows key, type "Google Chrome," and install it, while on linux it's not immediately obvious why it doesn't. You'd have to look up documentation on linux repos, 3rd party repos, containerized stores, and... now you've just lost the interest of 99% of the population.

    I'm not saying AverageUser9000 isn't a moron, but I kind of sympathize too. We are effectively linux experts, and:

    XCKD familiarity

    [–] this@sh.itjust.works 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

    I agree, however when I hear this kind of sentiment, I think about how hard big tech has been fighting to make people computer illiterate and how we need to fight harder than ever to get people to understand the machines they use even just a tiny bit more.

    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    I've been contemplating... trying to start some kind of "PC Computing Club" or something. With the goal being to outreach and educate people toward computer literacy.

    It would have to be something that's "cool" to be a part of, because nobody actually seems to show up to "computer classes" even though they all clamor for them. Especially old people. They think they want to "learn computers" and then just drop out if they show up at all.

    There's gotta be a way around that. 90's computer users were passionate and would be staging riots at what's been done to the Internet, privacy laws, and on and on...

    This "deliteracy" campaign is entirely intentional. They want to create an idiot cow-sumer class, which only exists to labor and pay subscriptions, without understanding anything.

    [–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

    It... sort of exists. Different ones exist with slightly different goals, but they are all paid for by companies to promote their stuff. Like forcing everyone to use GitHub because they are the main sponsor. Not like OOP (Original Original Poster) where it's speculated, I mean usually it's just public and people don't care. Shameless self plug (apart from that one there's "Code Club" and also a few a dozen initiatives that die out quickly).

    [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

    Back in my day, you had to search the internet for a Google Chrome installer file, and usually you wouldn't even download it from a Google site but some computer magazine's website.

    [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Oh I definitely don’t disagree with you. There’s a learning curve to be had. Part of that is just the UX of Linux (and the differing UIs), but I think the other part is straight up education.

    Apple early on adopted the strategy of giving computers to schools to get kids used to using their products, but at some point that shifted over to Microsoft as Office was the business standard. Many kids grew up knowing how to use Microsoft products and got used to using them. Shifting to a different unfamiliar platform is harder once you’re comfortable with something.

    Of course then Google stepped in and started pushing cheap Chromebooks to schools and moving people off physical software and storage to cloud products. Now that is trending towards iPads with just apps continuing the online only software options.

    So now you’ve got a generation of kids who don’t even know how to operate a PC let alone do something as basic as open a file.

    It all comes down to education. If schools adopted Linux and introduced it to kids at an early age, I’m sure they’d be proficient with it.

    [–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    As if that's ever going to happen...

    [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

    Because of choices by Microsoft, many governments, both local, and federal, are moving towards Linux.

    France is ditching Windows for Linux and it’s working well even at the local level.

    Denmark, Austria, the German state of Schleswig-Holstein, and a city in Italy have moved from Microsoft Office to Libre Office

    While its unlikely for the US to follow suite anytime soon, particularly in this current administration, and considering Microsoft has spyware built that aids the FBI, it may only be a matter of time until local governments switch for security, IT, and cost reduction reasons.

    [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

    any distro that enables flatpak out of the box will let you install both of these browsers. fedora is one like that. if you are using a KDE based desktop, typing their name in the app launcher will offer to install them (after the flatpak database was downloaded once, that should happen some time after first boot)

    when using a user friendly distro, this does not require much understanding I think. bot of course, without any understanding, there will be issues. like if someone doesn't know the computer is supposed to be shut down before cutting power to it.

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    [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 116 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    You'll notice another blatant act of sabotage: LibreOffice is easy to find but Word is nowhere to be found.

    [–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Did you know ?

    OpenOffice is a firewall product !

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F011hLZHZrM

    For context it is a french lawmakers casually explaining that OpenOffice has a firewall... And other random bullshit.

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    [–] LemmyPlaceDN@europe.pub 67 points 1 day ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

    Another example of how FOSS contains dark patterns and uses anti-competitive practices against big tech. Typical. /s

    [–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago

    We cannot let Microsoft have a monopoly... on sabotaging Microsoft.

    [–] marighost@piefed.social 59 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    What mental gymnastics does one have to do to come to that conclusion?

    [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 day ago

    Going to the Microsoft gym for all their life

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    [–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago

    Would be based if it was true. Fuck Microsoft and make Google watch.

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I actually find it kind of funny that MSFT does have an official linux release for Edge but not for Office.

    It would seem like they want it to be a Windows only feature as a way to keep people on Windows, but they have a Mac release of it eith the full feature set lol.

    [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    That's for practical reasons.

    Edge is Google Chrome underneath. So a linux release isn't much more dev effort on Microsoft's part.

    But they develop Office, and obviously linux was never a commercial target for it.

    [–] tempest@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago

    There's also the secondary reason which is they barely give a shit about the local office apps and want you to use 365 and the in browser versions.

    I'm surprised they even offer the office suite local at all anymore.

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    [–] dismay3915@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

    Average windows user brain

    [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 16 points 1 day ago

    Aliens' heads are smooth and grey, just like OP's brain.

    [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

    When you believe lies, the truth seems suspicious

    [–] rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago

    poor wittle megacorporations

    i will continue to assume they're rdrama type noxious dipshits

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