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    I use Arch, btw. You should have installed Arch too. It crashes sometimes and I got malware a couple of times, but most of the time, if I troubleshoot it just right, it'll show me my desktop. But, hey at least it's at the latest version and has the latest features so I can brag about it. But you should just use Arch, bro. It's the best, bro.

    [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 21 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    Whatever distro you're using is literally the worst one.

    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

    Not only is it the absolute worst, but you're also using it wrong

    [–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 hours ago

    PR are welcome

    Frankly if more software was like that we'd have these issues so much better. So many maintainers are so protective that they won't even read a bug fix PR and just close it.

    [–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 83 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

    I first installed Linux in 1995, before I had a second computer where I could look for help. Compared to that experience today's situation is paradise. So you won't hear me complain.

    [–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 2 points 44 minutes ago

    Today's linux situation is paradise compared to gaming on windows any time before 2015. I still remember having to keep multiple different nvidia driver installers ready for launching just to match what game I wanted to play.

    [–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

    I've definitely ran into the situation where I fucked something up half-way though installing a new distro, then had to wipe it to go back to an old distro so that I could access the internet and find out what I did wrong so that I could start from scratch.

    I hate doing debugging on my phone, but man sometimes is it better than the alternative.

    [–] comador@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

    Similarly, I ordered floppies for Slackware from Walmut Creek. Spent weeks screaming at my system for not being able to get a 256k Tulip VLB ISA video card to init into X before I found my first Linux BBS on I think DalNET... times were... different.

    [–] homes@piefed.world 25 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

    Oh, I remember that. Red hat 2.0. Where you had to download the source code for all of the floppy discs, compile them, and then write all of the floppies. I remember it was 7 or 9 floppy discs, 13 if you wanted printer drivers.

    It wasn’t until Red Hat 2.5 that they had pre-compiled floppy images you could download.

    [–] joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

    I went to one of my BBS friends houses in the early 90s and he had a giant book on how to compile and install Slackware

    [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 42 points 9 hours ago

    Is there a golden retriever labelled β€œrandom person on IRC with answers to all questions, writes a driver for you so you do t have to enter that house”

    [–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 37 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

    Easy there Eddie Vedder

    [–] notabot@piefed.social 19 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    Back in the dim and distant past, when I first studied CS, we were literally told to run that as one of the first commands we tried. It's an excellent place to start if you have the time to learn unix/linux thoroughly.

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    [–] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 49 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
    [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 35 points 10 hours ago (12 children)

    I feel like someone tired of hearing β€œit works on my computer” is how NixOS came about

    [–] captcha_incorrect@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    I tried NixOS after many years on Debian. I cannot go back, at least not on my server.

    [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    Debian is great, I love it. But the ease of which I can repair my system when I break it is the main reason to stay. I made an error in my hardware config and I just had to use the previous generation to get back to a working state. After that, I could take my time to fix the issue without the server being down.

    This whole everything is in config files is also very appealing, even though there is a lot to learn to get to the same level of knowledge (https://nix.dev/ helps there).

    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

    I know people hate hearing that line, but when I have done technical support it is highly useful to know if it works properly on other machines.

    Preferably identical hardware is a good starting point, but if a solution is working fine on one machine but not another it can steer you toward other client issues.

    Some user complaints of " it doesnt work on my machine" have been resolved to:

    • user modified, or didn't input, the correct environment variable.
    • user is running a version of app not certified for that hardware config.
    • user actually has no clue how computers work and didn't realize the app looking for shared network locations only works if you are on the network. Or app needing a license server can't work if it can't find the server
    • user isn't understanding the requirements for the app output, so not providing the necessary input can't achieve proper output results.
    [–] valter@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

    This is actually why I installed Bazzite on my desktop and suggested it to all my friends and family who were interested in Linux.

    If anyone has a problem, I'm already familiar with the distro and I can be reasonably certain that the software situation is pretty close.

    [–] DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 28 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

    Docker’s like β€œwell why don’t we just ship the client your computer then?”

    [–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    Dude, we got two machines shipped to us because the other team wasn't able to make the installers function. It was electromagnetic microscope simulators, so the team wasn't noobs. Got 2 fat pcs.

    Worked!

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    [–] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 19 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

    Tbf, those are sometimes valid responses, the new user just doesn't realize what they're asking is dumb, and it's exhausting to deal with when a bit of reading would solve the problem or show them what they're asking is impossible.

    [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 5 points 5 hours ago

    With the poor quality of the search engine results and the fact that information expires I very much disagree with this line of thought. Bit of reading solves the problem when you know what to read and understand what was written. It's very easy to spend hours reading all sorts of things (because you don't know exactly what you're looking for) and then discover half of what you read is now 3-5 years old information and no longer relevant.

    I know how easy it is because I spent days troubleshooting why my USB wifi stick wouldn't work. Most of the information I found was from when you needed to manually add the driver and was no longer relevant. What relevant information I did find, nothing matched the issue I was having. In the end I didn't care to bother anyone with a 5 year old wifi dongle because I'd probably run into people like you who'd tell me to RTFM before even bothering to understand the actual problem. Instead I solved the problem by buying a new dongle, one that I knew had been tested and worked. But someone else might have a far more expensive piece of hardware that they can't just replace on a whim.

    Let people ask their questions and if it really takes just a bit of reading why not take that 5 minutes to point them to the right place? How many days do they have to waste of their own before they're allowed to ask their stupid question that you could answer in 5 minutes?

    [–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 22 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    I used to be a mod on a forum for a fairly popular free program, and we generally treated even that like an information availability problem. Yes, we had an FAQ (and yes, sometimes even still people wouldn't read it), but when there were a ton of similar questions that were all answered in the FAQ, we figured that meant that the FAQ needed a rewrite for better SEO.

    [–] mirshafie@europe.pub 19 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

    Ultra-rare sane person randomly appears on the internet

    [–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago

    I'm not even joking, that's literally the best compliment I've received all month. Thank you.

    [–] fork@feddit.online 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    This. I had an issue a couple months ago. I posted on the distro's form with a much info as I could provide and some real smart people gave me a ton of help really quickly.

    Knowing how to ask and not being abrasive is really helpful.

    [–] YellowParenti@lemmy.wtf 7 points 8 hours ago

    Lol, posting what you read, tried, error codes, and what's installed and your hardware gives you a very high chance on getting a civil reply. It shows you're trying.

    [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 19 points 10 hours ago (10 children)

    I find this to be one of those memes that's not actually based on facts but on feelings. If you ask a question that could have been answered by a quick search, or asked a very vague question, then sure. Otherwise, I find that the linux and FOSS community as a whole tends to be extremely helpful and patient. Yes, there are assholes, but overall the community is full of people willing to help.

    [–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

    Yeah, I've found everyone to be kind, patient and helpful to me since day 1 - not a single bitchy reply that I can remember. Been using Linux for about 3 years now.

    Yeah i like to think if you're smart and ask good questions people are happy to help

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    [–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

    Those same people when you use an LLM to solve your problem:

    What the fuck did you just fucking say about LLMs you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

    Holy fuck I forgot about this copypasta

    [–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 5 points 7 hours ago

    The only inaccurate part of this is thinking a Marine is using Linux. Been around service members my whole life. Marines use windows, air Force folks use Mac, and army soldiers end up on Linux. Lol

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