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    [–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 30 minutes ago)

    It's amazing that my pc is set to shut down when I press power button.

    Not even "press and hold for a sec." No I just press the power and by the time I lift my finger it's already shutting down.

    [–] waldfee@feddit.org 28 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    [**    ] A stop job is running for Session c1 of User gdm (49s / 1min 30s)

    [–] xianjam@programming.dev 1 points 48 minutes ago

    You read my mind

    [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

    `[**    ] A stop job is running for Session c1 of User gdm (4min 19s / 1min 30s)`

    [–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    You know I'm okay with Windows running updates I shut down or anything else like that. It's incredibly annoying when people don't run updates and then wonder why their system gets fucked up. It's just like on Linux when people just absolutely refuse to acknowledge the fact that they need to run updates. And many times I need to run the updates manually through the command line. There are quite a few gooey applications and things like that that will allow you to run updates but many times you still have to run them manually. And then something breaks and people wonder why I broke when they didn't run any updates. So in the end really who gives a fuck if it's running updates on shutdown you hit the button says run updates you tell it to run updates and you either close the lid on your laptop and walk away or you carry it till it shuts down within a few minutes and then you shut it down. Or you just let your desktop run until it's done. It's really not that big of a deal that people here seem to make it out to be and seem to make 10 different memes a day about the shutdown process on whatever OS they want to shut down.

    [–] KmlSlmk64@lemmy.world 2 points 39 minutes ago

    For most people, especially work computer/laptop users, making the update happen by default on restart or during sleep hours does a lot to keep the pc updated, because they would otherwise never do it themselves. There is a somewhat large minority of users who complain about such behaviour, but these are mostly people into computers anyways and can update their stuff anyways.

    But the biggest gripe is the horrid implementation of the start menu power buttons in windows:

    • update and restart: mostly works as you would expect - updates and boots the pc
    • update and shutdown: updates the pc, and instead of leaving the pc in shutdown state, many times it just boots the pc again, working like update and restart
    • restart/shutdown without updating: non-insignificant chance of it doing the update anyways
    [–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

    One-finger salute takes 10 seconds.

    [–] Tiempo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

    Shutdown NOW

    Yes sir!

    [–] Zeddex@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago
    [–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 3 points 3 hours ago

    Windows + R cmd [enter] Shutdown -r -s -t 0 [enter]

    [–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

    Windows 10 has had a bug for about 3 years now. Where if you choose "install update and shutdown" and instead it reboots.

    Windows 11. We installed a printer driver and unchecked "Restart my computer now". It attempted to restart anyway, with Windows offering to either close all programs and restart, or cancel. I clicked cancel. It restarted anyway. Nothing was lost, but still... 🀦

    [–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    I thought I'd seen news that that had finally been acknowledged and fixed, or did they only fix it for 11 or something?

    [–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

    Just updated last week and didn't shut down. I also read somewhere it was fixed months ago

    [–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

    Is there a "How to Linux" somewhere? I'd really like to get beyond using my CachyOS system as gui user, hell even some of the gui stuff is so alien. Felt like a lesser god when I found the repo... But terminal commands are just beyond me

    [–] lattrommi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

    This helped me quite a lot. You don't have to use arcolinux either, it's simply a guide.

    https://www.arcolinux.info/learning-path/

    edit i haven't used that link in awhile and i'm not sure it's the same experience anymore, some things appear to be missing. if unsure about any step, you can skip it usually. it's more of a list of things to learn.

    [–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

    Nothing wrong with GUI but yeah there are a lot of resources. I don't know if I can point you to any because I usually just web search the command for the thing I want to do and add it to a long running note of Linux commands

    [–] LandBasedDaveyJones@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

    Check out "Linux survival" if you're old school, LabEx if you like experiential learning more, and less explanation. Both offer exercises, both are free, but Labex has a few restrictions for free accounts, and offers a paid tier at like 9 bucks a month. And ofc you don't have to use the terminal irl, it's just easier after getting used to it. Most things have a GUI program equivalent, you just have to seek it out. Most of the time.

    Edit: And also, Linux Mint and a few others are often recommended to new users for being both similarish to windows and approachable with GUI.

    [–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

    Thank you! I've used mint, liked it, tried PopOS, had some trouble with it I can't remember and instead of solving it moved to CachyOS which promised to solve the issue, and it did. I think it was Bluetooth

    [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 9 points 4 hours ago

    systemctl invariably hangs on waitimg for some job to finish. systemd-shutdown-inhibitor is hideous.

    poweroff -ff

    [–] orlyowl@piefed.ca 41 points 6 hours ago

    Reminds me of one of the truest comics I ever read.

    DsmoxSmOInIZlnj.jpg

    [–] foofiepie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

    Ok fine I can live with that.

    But .

    Windows: No! That file is open! You cannot.

    What.

    [–] hactar42@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    Not to be that guy but...

    shutdown /s /f /t 0

    [–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

    No, you have to use the GUI in Windows.

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    [–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 72 points 8 hours ago (6 children)
    [–] TwilightKiddy@scribe.disroot.org 29 points 8 hours ago (7 children)

    At least it tells you how long it'll take before it decides to SIGKILL whatever is holding the shutdown sequence.

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    [–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 15 points 7 hours ago

    (X time / 1:30) but the second time will be extended indefinitely for some fucking reason.

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    [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

    Mac users: you guys shut it down?

    [–] abominable_panda@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

    Last time this happened to me (read: yesterday) i ended up holding down the power button.

    You dont want to shut down when i ask i will make you.

    [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    Windows cannot shut down because there is a folder open.

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    Systemctl? Bro just poweroff

    [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    Big fan of hibernate (systemctl hibernate on systemd systems, and you need a swap file that's at least as big as your RAM). Sure I wait some time until it's shut down and booting takes longer, too, but not having to reopen all those terminal and editor windows I'm accumulating while working is worth it.

    [–] StellarExtract@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

    Yeah, I always set up my laptops to not sleep upon closing the screen, and I use hibernate instead of sleep when I need to leave and come back later. Makes moving an active system much better since I can close it without disrupting things, and hibernate uses zero battery, so it lasts indefinitely while inactive. Plus, none of that "modern standby" BS trying to connect to wifi or start the system back up while packed in a bag. That might be more an issue with my Windows work machines though.

    [–] OR3X@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

    This might sound crazy, but you don't have to shutdown your computer every time you're done using it. You can just lock the screen and walk away.

    [–] lattrommi@lemmy.ml 2 points 48 minutes ago

    Lock the screen? Pshh... I set mine up where after 15 minutes of inactivity the screen shuts off. that's it. i'll restart if the update tells me to.

    [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

    If you're on a laptop, you often can't do that and those updates waste precious battery life.

    [–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

    Has anyone found a way to finagle better battery life on Linux laptops? One of my few Linux complaints is that...

    There's sleep.
    Last time I did update on my laptop, I had 40 days of uptime.

    [–] OR3X@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago
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