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Persian(Farsi) also doesn't have a word for "The". We just say the word. There's also no gender prefixes. The whole language is gender neutral.
Our ancestors were really up to something thousands of years ago.
In English, there is an implied difference between “the girl downstairs was playing violin” (‘the girl’ implying expected knowledge - “oh, her”) versus “a girl downstairs was playing violin” (‘a girl’ - random, likely unknown).
More broadly “a thing” - one of many, “the thing” - a specific one.
How would that translate to Farsi?
We do the opposite. If something is known we just say it.
"The girl(1) is playing(2) violin(3) downstairs(4)"
دختر(۱) در طبقهی پایین(۴) ویالن(۳) مینوازد(۲)
To refer to an unknown thing we add a prefix ی to the thing
A girl -> دختری
The girl -> دختر
Don't know about Farsi, but in Russian you would have to declare your knowledge and specificity of the subject. You can transmit some of that information by changing word emphasis, but it's not very clear.
As for your sentences I would translate them as:
- The girl downstairs was playing violin → Девушка [girl] внизу [downstairs] играла [was playing] на скрипке [violin].
- A girl downstairs was playing violin - Внизу [downstairs] девушка [girl] играла [was playing] на скрипке [violin].
The first one puts more emphasis on the "girl". The second one puts more emphasis on "downstairs", almost suggesting that the identity of the girl doesn't matter, kinda "some girl who happened to be downstairs". But it is not as explicit as a definite/indefinite article for sure.
If you want to make it certain that the identity of the girl doesn't matter, you could use an adjective to that extent: Внизу [downstairs] какая-то девушка [some girl] играла [was playing] на скрипке [violin].
If you want to make it certain that both you and the person you're talking to know about the girl, you can use a determiner: Та девушка [that girl] внизу [downstairs] играла [was playing] на скрипке [violin].
I guess the is implied, count is explicit. A thing becomes one thing and the thing becomes thing.
Is the number one used like "a" then? Like a direct translation of the 2 phrases would be "Girl downstairs is playing the violin." and "one girl downstairs is playing the violin." As opposed to English using the/a respectively?
As per Google translate it seems so.
Ha! All three of the big East Asian languages also don't have articles. (It's also why we drop them all the time when learning to speak English.)
I just assume anyone not using articles is a Roman
Internet Romanis plenum est
English acting like it’s not a fucked up language where “the big, red, round, wrapped box” is fine but “the wrapped, round, red, big box” is wrong.
Let's add dialects to the mess:
While not written in "book" German*, colloquial German may feature des, dat, det or dit instead of das, shorten der to dr or elide parts (like the French l', except it may be attached to the previous word): Das ist das Problem mit der deutschen Sprache -> Des isch's Problem mit dr deutscha Sproach
("That is the problem with the German language." Bonus: notice how the demonstrative pronoun "that" is also
das? Just in case you were hoping it was restricted to "the"...)
* Hochdeutsch or Standarddeutsch ("High German" or "Standard German"), originally a written form slowly evolved over centuries to be most widely understood and has since been formalised. Informally, the term is also used for a spoken counterpart properly called Bühnendeutsch ("Stage German"), which isn't always quite as "pure", hence my distinction.
I bloody love my language.
Norwegian:
-en, -a, -et
I understand all of these languages.
but I also never have sex.
life is full of trade-offs.


It's not that hard once you understand the difference. It's more like getting a feel for it than following an actual rule, but a good starting point is that が indicates the subject of a clause, whereas は indicates the topic a sentence is in reference to, which can often also be the subject of the primary clause, which is why they get confused.
For instance, 私が疲れた (watashi ga tsukareta) would mean "I am tired" literally, but it would sound awkward, because the more usual way to phrase this would be closer to "as for me, tired" or 私は疲れた (watashi wa tsukareta).
It's not a perfect rule, and there isn't a perfect way to directly translate it because English (and most European languages) don't have a comparable grammar structure. But generally if you're speaking in reference to yourself or another person, the correct particle is usually "wa", but not always. It just takes practice to get a feel for the exceptions.
And often enough "wa" is used instead of "ga" for objects and places, but it's easier to get a feel for the difference. For instance, さっぽろが寒い (Sapporo ga samui) and さっぽろは寒い (Sapporo wa samui) are both correct, but have slightly different meanings, although the English translations of both would sound the same, "Sapporo is cold".
The difference is that with "ga," it's more like an isolated statement of fact. On the other hand, with "wa" it's usually being contrasted with something, often implicit and unstated, carrying nuance like "as opposed to where we are" or "as opposed to the rest of Japan" or "as opposed to our other options for a travel destination", but what exactly it's being contrasted with is usually clear from the context of the conversation.
At the end of the day, "ga" is usually cut and dry: it marks the subject of a sentence the same way "wo", "ni", "he", "de", etc., mark other grammatical cases (direct/indirect objects, prepositional phrases, etc.).
"Ha" is the only one you need to watch out for with its very distinctive Japanese-ness. Although Korean has a very similar construct.
Simple as.
I prefer dealing with complicated but ultimately rule-based stuff like は/が over the utter nonsense that is grammatical gender (and I'm German).
Edit: and because I see heated discussion about it elsewhere: grammatical gender is a very convenient thing to have (not to learn) and I wouldn't abolish it (just wouldn't want to learn it).
