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Can someone ELI5 ... or ELI haven't seen either of these movies and don't know if these are quotes from people involved or the general sentiment of the messages of the movies?
Edit: Thank you all for the explanations!
I need to give DC movies more credit, I think...
I didn't watch Captain America but in Superman, Superman shoves a dictator that's clearly a stand in for Netenyahoo into a cactus and Hawkgirl, who has no issue with killing, drops him from the sky.
In the Captain America movie, US President gets turned into a hulk and wrecks some junk (and maybe screws up some other stuff, maybe commits war crimes? Idk, I just watched some summary videos). The message is that none of that really matters; patriotism and loyalty to your leadership is important and so we should look past all that.
In Superman, a major plot point is a tacitly abstracted Israel/Gaza conflict. Superman continues to delay/obstruct the invasion by kidnapping the leader of parallel Israel, taking him to the middle of the desert, and dropping him from crazy high (and catching him before he hits the ground) to get him to back down.
In the Captain America movie we learn that the current [MCU] President was near the same blast that created the first Hulk. Yadda yadda, the President becomes the Red Hulk and ends up in jail. Harrison Ford plays the President and he's sorrowful for what happened and Captain America is also sad.
In Superman, Superman explicitly uses his powers to stop a genocidal war and the dictator gets killed. At one point Lois Lane questions if just having super powers gives Clark the right to do anything he wants, even if it's good?
If you haven't seen the MCU movies, see 'Black Panther' first. Then see 'Captain America - The Winter Soldier.' imho, those are the only two that would be interesting if you took out the super hero stuff.
Superman is a pretty fun movie. It was made by a fan boy, so it can be confusing if you don't know who The Element Man or Krypto are.
Sandman can serve as an introduction to Metamorpho. And I'm not sure why we need an explanation for Krypto; it's a super dog - is that not enough?
Yeah, I don't know shit about DC and I was fine not having any real background on anyone. Krypto especially.
After watching Supergirl though, I was annoyed.
I liked the plot, but it was too shallow and heavy handed. They could have spent a little more time on the writing. The bad guy was absolutely one dimensional and completely forgettable.
Also, so many deus ex machina macguffins. I guess you need to when you have a "Kryptonian" but they should have just kept her on a red planet and had her deal with everything without her super powers.
Then after she wins, have her get to a yellow sun and do super stuff for the fans. But the 72 hour poison, kryptonite darts, "Krem has the strength of a thousand men", ... that was just so lame.
Where is their production money going because it's clearly not being spent on writing?
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At least she killed someone. So tired of homicidal maniacs being "brought in for justice."
General sentiment of the movies.
In superman there's an evil dictator from a fictional country that gets dropped by a flying superhero (not superman). In captain america someone injects the president with a hulk serum and causes chaos.(Honestly haven't seen that one but I think that's it lol)
Seriously, though. What the fuck was that hulk movie?