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[–] grayclouds@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Loosely related: if your relatives ever give you anything to sell on Facebook Marketplace or something, they will insist on some sort of insane price which will not move. You lower the price dramatically and it finally sells after weeks and weeks of just sitting there. Knowing that your boomer relative will be angry that it sold for $25 rather than 40 bajillion dollars, you lie to them and say you sold it for $45. They bitch, shit themselves, scream and cry, give you a hard time all throughout Sunday dinner and then claim they're going to sell their own stuff from now on. They never sell anything, or even attempt to do so. The end.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I avoid this problem by not using Facebook

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 hours ago

Facebook sellers all consult The Art of the Deal.

[–] grayclouds@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

[insert selling platform here]

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Oh no, not the end. At the end, you have a week to dispose of what can be charitably described as a hoard of useless boomer nonsense.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Behold the inevitable future of funko pops.

[–] grayclouds@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Oh I'm selling mine before my next birthday for sure. This won't be me when I'm old! I only had 3 of them, but that is too many.

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[–] grayclouds@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah that's why I'm putting the pressure on now, while they're all still breathing on their own.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There's always more they've never told you about

[–] grayclouds@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

Holy shit...

[–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You can always call the second hand store to come and take everything

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[–] TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (7 children)

They die and now all that stuff is your responsibility anyway

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 8 points 23 hours ago

Where is the meme? All that is here is the waking world.

[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

In like 2018 I bought a 2014 Honda Accord Sport for $6500. 6 speed manual, fun car to drive. It had like 50k miles on it which is essentially nothing for a Honda. Carfax was clean etc. Then I had 2 kids and it was time for the Minivan. I traded in the Accord at the dealership (which I never do, but didn't have time to do a private sale). They gave me something like $9500 for it. This was in the beginning of 2025. I drove the Accord for 7 years and made $3000 somehow. And I'm sure the dealership sold it for like $12000.

Shits crazy.

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Was it pre-spyware? I'll pay extra for pre-spyware vehicles. I work in IT, so I value my privacy.

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[–] Entropy_Pyre@lemmy.ca 164 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m starting to look at those old cars just to not have built-in trackers on my vehicle.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 day ago (10 children)

I won't drive anything I can't fix. That seems to be old vehicles only.

[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

On one hand, I wanna do right by the environment, own an EV, do my part.

On the other hand, corporations are never going to do their part, the Earth is probably doomed and I have to get by to get by.

So... yeah, I'm probably buying another 6-9th gen Civic or Accord and sending it until it dissolves into the pavement.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Buying old means not purchasing net new products. It's not fully sustainable, but it maintains the status quo and doesn't contribute to more waste. Keeping something old alive and in good working condition is a lower carbon footprint than buying a new EV or Hybrid.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 15 points 1 day ago

Depends on the miles. An EV undertakes a new gas car after 20k miles.

There is a point where a new EV, with mined lithium and all, will be more environmentally friendly than a used car that didn't need to be built but burns gas for every mile.

If you live in a sunny area (pv) or a dense hydro area, that point is quite quickly reached.

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[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 18 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The engine in my 1994 K1500 is fucked but I'll engine swap before I buy a spyware truck.

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[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Yeah, the new car market has made overpriced shitters look good

[–] Tippy@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just checked out a trade in 2026 model at a dealership. Had 14k miles already in 8 months and had a damaged head unit display (2k for replacement). Told the dealership they were gonna struggle to sell it, especially given that there's an actual branded dealership selling these all day long a mile away with a quarter of the miles and no damage. It's been sitting on their lot 2 months already with barely any online hits.

GM had a hissy fit that I suggested 2k less than their price, OTD, for me to drive it off the lot.

I suspect I'll be getting a call back in a few weeks when their quotas are low and they realize they aren't selling gold-plated Ferraris.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 36 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You should offer them something even lower when they do

[–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The value has dropped, it's now closer to inspection date

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 17 hours ago

And they're more desperate to sell

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[–] lp0_on_fire@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The 2012 used car market was pretty fucked. Tons of old stock had been taking off the market in 09/10 by Cash for Clunkers.

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let's not pretend that a lot of good cars met an early end in C4C. People were hauling in their broken garbage to cash in. Nobody was bringing in some pristine example of anything good. A whole lot of raggedy minivans, crappy econoboxes and rusty trucks got sand in their engines. If they were worth anything, the scrapyard could have plopped a new motor in them and resold them.

C4C cleaned out the bottom of the barrel shit. Unless you were dying for some fucked up shitheap of a car, nothing of value was lost. If someone was dumb enough to roll in with something useful, you know damn well that the dealer would have given them the same money for it and just resold it. Yeah, you weren't supposed to do that, and politicians aren't supposed to fuck children either.

[–] TrollAccount69@lemmy.ml 5 points 22 hours ago

You’re way off.

There were fuel economy requirements for c4c, your trade in had to be low mpg and your new purchase or lease had to be higher mpg. So it was never econoboxes. In fact they changed the rules in the middle of it and blacklisted a bunch of engine and model combos so you couldn’t get the rebate if your trade in was good enough on gas.

If a person was coming in to get the c4c money then the dealer had to record the vins to prevent fraud. They made a system in some of the vin check websites that made it so you could look up and make sure you weren’t being sold a salvage car like after Katrina. There was still a really small amount of insane bullshit but it was one of the first times back then that you could get a free title check across state lines instantly and online.

When a dealer gave someone the c4c money they had to record what title it was for and destroy the engine and body. So there was only the car salesman who’s employer wouldn’t be footing the bill for the payout standing between some prospective buyer correctly recognizing it was their one chance to get more for their trade in than any dealership would ever give them being way more willing to sign an onerous lease and signing off on putting reliable vehicles like the box Cherokee and blazer (and f150 and 1500 and and and) on the conveyor belt to being destroyed.

And c4c cars never got scrapped. They were destroyed and then junked. After the most expensive part was destroyed as a requirement of the program the yard that did the job had 180 days to destroy the body. American scrapyards aren’t like European or Asian ones where the car is disassembled into its component parts that each get tagged and put on a shelf in a big warehouse, they drag the car out into a field and let it sit there. A car with no usable engine isn’t even worth handling because it’s taking up space that one with an engine could occupy. It’s not even worth putting in a spot because you have half a year to get some value out of the accessories that weren’t damaged in the engine destruction process (no water pump, no manifolds, no radiators or oil coolers, when the engine blows its seals externally it might even take out the alternator!) and the interior before you gotta move it on. Better to never mess with it in the first place.

Even if none of that were true and it wasn’t actively destroying the parts, engine and chassis availability for two decades of vehicles people could have been driving for dubious environmental and economic gain, c4c specifically incentivized the poorest drivers to take on debt in order to juice the economy. It was fucking evil.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

That was also when the CAFE standards changed and suddenly small trucks became effectively illegal since fuel economy standards started being based on vehicle footprint.

It's why trucks started growing in size so much. The manufacturers figured out it was easier to make cars bigger than to make them more effecient.

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[–] weimaraner_of_doom@piefed.social 43 points 1 day ago (33 children)
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

so like brand new if it's a Toyota

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago

Is the bottom one made to look better with AI, is that a feature of the used car market these days?

[–] Curiousfur@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (6 children)

2UZ-FE V8, could probably push it to a million miles.

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