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[–] moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Buy local. Most of the world doesn't eat veggies dependent on fertilizer.

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Nopalitos, look out. Guess cactus is the only thing on the menu.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I have been telling anyone who would listen, this whole year practically, to stock up on dried goods. Since I saw the ocean temps and as we got news about el nino, mixed with the war that had just broken out, closing all fertilizer plants in Southern Asia basically, it was obviously going to blowback into multiple bread basket failures simultaneously which can easily lead to GLOBAL FAMINE.

I have been losing my god damned mind this whole year trying to come up with a plan to protect my family on a much shorter timescale than I previously was (which anyone would describe was also doomerism).

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 24 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

Best get your garden growing and learn to can veggies.

Better: join your local organic CSA.

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 18 points 20 hours ago

Garden can only help so much when your issue is gardening is threatened

Reducing waste and canning however, good ideas imo

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 10 points 19 hours ago

Good luck growing anything. The plants can't handle climate change as well. A lot of us got nothing this summer.

[–] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 20 hours ago

Ill get right on that in my tiny studio apartment in a high rise

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

...

That's not going to change the price of fertilizer, growing your own is going to get expensive too.

Like, shit is accelerating the shortage, but it was happening anyways. And there's legitimately no solution. There's things we can do to mitigate it, but it's just kicking the can down the road at this point.

Like, you know how people always said "we grow enough food, it's a distribution problem"...

That's not going to be true for much longer, the planet just can't support anywhere near this amount of humans without fertilizer, and we're running out. We need multiple kinds, and the ones we can "make" are made from finite resources.

Shits going to get rough, and gardens are not going to fix it.

Almost like making it a real problem was the point all along.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

How much industrial grade fertiliser do you need for a home garden? I'm no gardener, but I thought, if you're doing it right, you wouldn't need any.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

but I thought, if you’re doing it right, you wouldn’t need any.

I mean...

Most people don't just plant straight in the ground, they bring in "top soil" that's already fertilized.

If you just clear out grass and plant veggies, you might get a couple seasons without it, but probably not. Grass is terrible for soil quality and whatever you get isn't going to be much.

But even if you bring in top soil and do a raised bed, eventually the soil depletes, and you can either add fertilizer or replace the top soil which is the same thing.

You'll get something but not a lot, so especially in the context of a garden with a high enough yield to effect a grocery bill, it's going to need a huge amount of land without fertilizer, meaning a lot more water and a lot more labor.

Even if you're trying to grow in harmony with a nitrogen fixer that's just part of the equation.

Edit:

I just don't think most people have an half acre of more land to devote to a garden without fertilizer. But some people do.

[–] moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Learn about nitrogen fixers. Ground cover between crops is all the fertilizer you need.

You can also compost your food scraps and your poop, but the nitrogen fixers are the major source of long term nitrogen.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Even if you’re trying to grow in harmony with a nitrogen fixer that’s just part of the equation.

Don't worry! The people in charge who have been making this a problem since agriculture was invented and whose only solution was ever doing violence to some new 'frontier' will save us. No change required.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

A colleague of mine is an avid gardener and, grew all his own fruit, veggies, and coffee, on a much smaller block than that. He also kept chickens, so I believe he used their poop as fertiliser. Also, eggs!

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That's got a crazy amount of nitrogen, but that's still just one of the big three...

I spent winters shoveling literally tons of manure onto a field by pitchfork until I went to college. So deep it was literally just a field of shit by the time it was down, a solid 3-4 inch coating for acres.

We still fertilized multiple times a season on top of that. But that was land that had been worked for generations. For a couple of years, replacing nitrogen is fine....

Because people haven't been growing crops there.

What happens in a decade when all of that is used up? That's my entire point, it's kicking the can down the road. If someone doesn't think this is a giant issue, they're in denial or haven't really thought thru what's happening.

There's a reason hillbillies don't like trespassers, it take a lot of land to feed a human.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 1 points 6 hours ago

So what you're saying is shit's fucked? I guess we'll just have to eat the rich then.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 4 points 19 hours ago

I've got two left green thumbs, though.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago

And this is coming from JPMorgan, long known to be Deep State radical leftists, ya know...

[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

We should expect high inflation for the rest of your lives. Climate change was always going to cause this, even without an oligarchy of psychopathic criminals and pedophiles.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 1 points 6 hours ago

We should expect high inflation for the rest of your lives.

At least it'll be brief, then.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And cunts like JPMorgan and Blackrock are the reason we're in this completely fucked up timeline.

What's important is that we change nothing.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago

Somehow everything has to go up. This whose system doesn't seem very resilient to shocks.