When I showed people they were like “is this real?” And I showed them it was being hosted by Wikipedia but most of them still thought it was fake
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I got laughed at and called paranoid and alarmist before Trump was re-elected when I talked about project 2025 and how terrifying it was.
One day in the summer before the election I had an interaction at work with a member of the public. An older white gentleman from a conservative area that has a lot of racists. He started talking to me and bringing the conversation around to politics, and I was mentally bracing myself to grit my teeth and remain professional. He told me how he was a lifelong Christian and then he surprised the living fuck out of me. He actually teared up and asked if I had heard of Project 2025. When I told him I had he said that it scared him so badly, that they were laying out how they wanted to oppress and kill his fellow Americans just because they were different and he was terrified that it was going to be enacted and that he didn't believe in any of that and wanted to stand up against it and would not vote for it.
I think about him every once in awhile and wish we had more people like him in this country.
I wish more people understood that there are good Christians out there. I'm not christian myself but one of my best friends is. And not one of those who just say they are but don't follow any of it. He goes to church every week, waited until marriage and spent one year after high school studying theology full time. And he is one of the nicest people I know. One of his best friends is a trans woman who lives in a polycule and he has no problem with it.
The worst Christians are the ones who don't listen to their own scripture. It litteraly says right in the new testament, dozens of times, that you shouldn't judge. Judgment is a sin.
being a decent human being and being religious are basically perpendicular axes. you can be both, or neither, or either or.
some people really go out of their way to make the lives of others miserable, religious beliefs notwithstanding. the local motorbike school recently had to move their training away from an emergency wartime airfield because a nearby farmer dumped like 40 tons of of earth on it. it's not his land, it's state-owned, and it's in the middle of the woods. nobody lives within several km. he just didn't want people there.
People who don't understand that religious rules are only for people that really care about the religion. Even most practicing religious folks aren't fully Orthodox
This is exactly what broke me. Idgaf about the world anymore. Clear as day plans to fuck everything up, destroy the planet, economically genocide the poor. Nobody in power did shit about it and voters elected them anyways. No amount of being right matters when people refuse to see the obvious. The only way to get people to act, wisely or not, is to manipulate them into it and so here we are. The most propagandized, misinformed and manipulated population in human history.
They're kept perpetually angry just because it keeps them from thinking clearly.
Literally, manipulated into navigating life while being incapable of utilizing their own intelligence because anger shuts down parts of the brain and narrows focus.
We do, they're scared and isolated
I feel both glad and bad for the ones like that who seem to follow the intent of Jesus' message, however I also remember that it's because of their silent acceptances of the vocal ones who are full of hate and racism that allow it to continue. If they won't rise up against blatant twisting of their religion, nothing will change. They should tear up, but then be in their church rallying against the use of their religion for political gain. You know, the whole reason behind church/state separation.
I don't understand where you get this feeling of silent acceptance. If there is something Christians are known for it's inter-christian conflict. Conservative christians absolutely despise liberal Christians and vice versa. If you spend some time in online christian spaces you will quickly see how conservative christians spend almost as much time bashing liberal Christians as they spend on ethnic or sexual minorities, if not more so depending on the space.
Worse still, the people with the most power to oppose it (the DNC leadership) are STILL functionally shrugging, when not actively going along with it!
The likes of Schumer and Jeffries are as useful as tits on a tractor and need to be deposed ASAP.
For a while there Donnie tried to play it off like he had no idea was 2025 was and hand no interest in it. For some reason some people actually bought it.
Trump is just a puppet to distract from the Project 2025 and Techno Libertarian assholes behind the scenes. They put him on the ticket because the Idiot Cult is easy votes. He agreed because it meant staying out of jail.
The real tell, is if in Jan, they immidiately turn on him and install True Believer™ Vance as the new President. Then they can just manipulate everything to 10 years of perfrct Christo fascism.
Except the world economy will likely collapse before that.
Desperation would be my guess.
Virtually everything he says is a lie anyway.
But her laugh
Old people are so easily manipulated to clips.
she never recovered from falling from a coconut tree
All of this is very easy when you accept the Americans are fucking morons.
It's depressing to see how far along it is: https://project2025.observer/
Agree to disagree - it's only depressing if you pay attention to reality! (/s)
Dems at the convention when they see Pro-Palestine protestors outside.
I remember maga saying Trump's not connected to project 2025 the. Saying all the connections to project 2025 don't count
The next step is realizing that Obamacare, Build Back Better, and pretty much every "win" from the "resistance" is written by or re-packaged from the exact same group of people.
The ACA was never what was really wanted, ever, but it did make a difference for many people. So many that even conservatives will say they hate Obamacare, but the government better not touch their ACA. They are so close to getting it, yet never will. And we almost didn't get the "terrible" ACA, so imagine where we'd be. It's not a win, but it's not a lose either. It was a compromise with conservatives to get some improvements while the door was open for getting the votes, and that slammed shut the rest of his two terms. (thanks Mr. zombie Mitch)
it did make a difference for many people
By what metric?
I hear it repeated a lot with many anecdotal examples and rationalizations but by every quantifiable metric healthcare post 2010 is much worse than before.
Just the pre-existing conditions rule alone is huge. The wikipedia article is a good resource vs. just anecdotal, and it looks like the general opinion is the ACA was just a start and people wanted more adjustments to make it better. Republicans of course voted over 60 times to try and repeal it, without ever offering anything better.
The metrics you're talking about might not be from the ACA effects, but from other issues hitting the health care industry over time. There's mention of lots more people becoming insured with the act with a surge in doctor visits, but then later years that dwindled because the facilities couldn't support the demand because of closures or not enough staff. That's not the ACA.
But remember that bOtH sIdEs SaMe, at least according to some. Sorry, I know it's heartbreaking to keep saying that, but it's true (that people say that). Some people say things that are going to legitimately get millions (billions even?) of people killed, and entire nations (already) toppled. Just so we can eventually become more open to becoming "communist" like... (checks notes) North Korea.
Mind you, I doubt that they actually believe it, but they do keep saying it nonetheless.
I am reminded that a deer freezing upon being confronted with headlights is actually a somewhat decent evolutionary strategy: moving would draw immediate attention to them, especially against a backdrop that they can blend into. And if they get caught and eaten well... at that point it was basically inevitable anyway, so some slim chance at avoiding that gruesome end is better than an even tinier, basically non-existent one.
It is true that people say it, but it's far more true that they are such a trivial number of people that like North Korea that the fact that they come up so frequently in these conversations feels like such a misplace of energy.
If you want to criticized someone for being deer in the headlights of project 2025, maybe consider the democratic establishment, that watched idly by while republicans broke norms, and arguably laws, to pack the supreme court. Inventing new conventions for reasons why they can't cede a single seat as the unelected body of supreme rule found radical new ways to insert themselves into established law.
All while keeping the facade that the courts are a neutral body that simply arbitrates, and that their decisions are in good faith.
Most people just aren't that bright. And many people are struggling to get food and shelter.
Many people do have time and money and decided they didn't care, though. Gotta go play video games, I guess.
Most people didn't read it. For or against