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Peak capitalism, steal everything from the masses, remix and regurgitate it so no one is the wiser, then sell it back to them via a subscription model.

Makes me sick.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 2 points 15 minutes ago

It is crazy music samples have stronger laws for commercial usage than for AI.

[–] isekaihero@ani.social 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Rules for thee, not for me.

Pirating anything isn't illegal anymore. If the government can pick and choose people and groups who don't have to pay for patent or copyright, then there are no patents or copyrights.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 1 points 16 seconds ago

Pirating was illegal? When?

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So... pay for it? It's not like the money isn't there

[–] eleefece@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

True. Profit is about the only thing these companies will never generate, but there's still money being thrown at them, it's just being spent on bonuses, mergers, and data centers.

Scrapers could peel off 1B of that to pay for what they're taking (like the pay for antique, print only books—because they can't physically steal those) instead of just robbing the commons if they really wanted to, if they thought that anything they were doing was ethically defensible or financially sustainable. ___

[–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 15 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Aaron Schwartz’s prosecution was always bullshit. RIP.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 1 points 59 minutes ago

"Leadership," well, here's hopin they find a way to materialize intellectual property and speculative investment, since that's like, the only metrics they use and neither of them are actually, y'know, real.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Precedent that copyright is not legally enforceable

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Precendent was already there. Copyright has never been enforceable when it's transformative. Collage is legal, so was training neural nets before the copyright industry saw money in it.

[–] NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net 19 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Precedent that laws don't apply to billionaires.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 1 hour ago

Crime is legal now.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Got it, so then they're outlaws and I can do whatever I want to them.

[–] ContactClosure@lemmus.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Fuck the US government and fuck OpenAI

[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

I am okay with that. As long we are consistent with the copyright law. If OpenAI can break copyright to make their own money, it should be legal to me too.

Laws should be the same for everyone and no one should be above the law

[–] wallwood@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Chinese models like Kimi are already competing head-to-head with Claude Opus in term of capability. And the main reason that kimi isn't as widely used as Claude is because Chinese companies aren't burning investors money to keep subscription prices low. I wonder how long will this dominance can last. Since investor money will eventually run out. and once that happens, what plans do they have to keep competing with free open weight models that already closed the gap.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

The problem with capitalism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

"Retain"? What in the actual fuck are you talking about? You surrendered that ages ago.

[–] Unquote0270@programming.dev 3 points 2 hours ago

Gotta keep the voters believing the US is the best at everything.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Got it, copy right I'd dead then Right?

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 hours ago

Bro we lost global leadership in AI so what are you saying

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

I am pirating this book to train AI (Actual Intelligence).

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 3 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, the forms of government propped up by capitalism tend to side with capitalism.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 hours ago

There's not just a desperation for Skynet by US government, like protecting oil from EVs/renewables, this is also about creating new oligarchs to fund electoral results that oppress Americans/humanity.

[–] northendtrooper@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So what I'm hearing is we now get to have our own Mickey Mouse and Pokemon ripoffs if they are down through OpenAI.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 59 minutes ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago)

You can make a pokemon ripoff with Photoshop, should Photoshop be illegal? Is it the tools fault or the user's fault?

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] Nagrom@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Therefore copyrights mean nothing

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 30 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

which technically makes piracy legal because that's the gov endorsing piracy

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

should update torrent client to say "LLM training agent" instead, legally safe /s

[–] holy_scroller@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I consider myself somewhat of a LLM.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

there's a Morrissey song about that

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

Legal for them, not for us

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Peasants like us can contribute to global leadership by being wage slaves and cannon fodder

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

amen, brother!

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Nah we might need to accept reality. You need to be rich enough to make some bullshit company that uses A.I. then you can pirate legally using that A.I. as an excuse.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

so Norm was right. ..

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 26 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

So it's eminent domain on other people's copyrighted content?

Gotta keep funneling money to those billionaires.

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