Precedent that copyright is not legally enforceable
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Precedent that laws don't apply to billionaires.
Chinese models like Kimi are already competing head-to-head with Claude Opus in term of capability. And the main reason that kimi isn't as widely used as Claude is because Chinese companies aren't burning investors money to keep subscription prices low. I wonder how long will this dominance can last. Since investor money will eventually run out. and once that happens, what plans do they have to keep competing with free open weight models that already closed the gap.
"Retain"? What in the actual fuck are you talking about? You surrendered that ages ago.
Yeah, the forms of government propped up by capitalism tend to side with capitalism.
Therefore copyrights mean nothing
Bro we lost global leadership in AI so what are you saying
So what I'm hearing is we now get to have our own Mickey Mouse and Pokemon ripoffs if they are down through OpenAI.
I am pirating this book to train AI (Actual Intelligence).
There's not just a desperation for Skynet by US government, like protecting oil from EVs/renewables, this is also about creating new oligarchs to fund electoral results that oppress Americans/humanity.
which technically makes piracy legal because that's the gov endorsing piracy
Peasants like us can contribute to global leadership by being wage slaves and cannon fodder
amen, brother!
Legal for them, not for us
should update torrent client to say "LLM training agent" instead, legally safe /s
I consider myself somewhat of a LLM.
there's a Morrissey song about that
yup
Nah we might need to accept reality. You need to be rich enough to make some bullshit company that uses A.I. then you can pirate legally using that A.I. as an excuse.
so Norm was right. ..
So it's eminent domain on other people's copyrighted content?
Gotta keep funneling money to those billionaires.
Misleading title from Techcrunch. It's the Trump Administration only (which we already know)
To my understanding, and excuse me if I‘m wrong because I‘m not a lawyer but that‘s not what the fucking law says? You either uphold copyright law or abandon it. There is no middle way and if courts disagree with you, your stance doesn‘t really matter here.
You misunderstand. YOU can’t use the data. Heck, you can’t easily find it anymore either. They’re scanning all the books and ripping them up as we speak too.
Big companies CAN because they own YOU. Clear?
Uh what do you mean you can't easily find it anymore? Search engines still exist (perhaps avoid Google unless you have to use it) and neither bookstores, nor the library, are out of books.
The reason they can do this with books is that there are so, so many books that nobody else wants to buy. Like so many that you can just buy books by the foot as a decoration. What books will you get? Nobody knows because nobody gave enough of a fuck to write it down. They're only valuable for LLM training because they're new data and they're only "rare" (as said in some articles) because there wasn't enough demand to print more.
And destroying the books means there's no extra copy of them, so for the purpose of copyright law, all is good unless an LLM straight up recites a passage from a book.
Honestly that whole thing might end up being net neutral or even positive, as the paper can be recycled, instead of sitting around as books nobody will read.
We are all training our own AI models now.
Remember that it's always morally acceptable to break in and destroy AI data centers. The only ones harmed are not people.
Firmly an example of capitalism cannibalism themselves.
It may not abolish copyright but it is causing cracks.
Copyright was always a scam, non personal information should be free. Multiple people can have the same good idea, walling of access to a good idea behind capital blocks human progress.
Before anyone says something, yes artists deserve to eat… just like everyone else. Being economically productive should not be a condition for that. Make your art for fun and enjoy the honor of being copied with a sidedish of UBI.
If we didnt have copyright laws then the wealthy would just copy everyone's good ideas and ensure the people who created those ideas get little to nothing, like Amazon making their own versions of every popular item and selling it for less than the original product.
15 years of non transferable copyright encourages creativity.
Some things (field of medicine/environmentalism) can’t wait 15 years for an effective democratised solution.
The idea that someone would be rewarded for limiting access to such solution sickens me.
Naturally they would deserve global praise possible in the form of a reward for creating the idea that changed the world for the better, but capitalism is designed to not do so.
To often in industry the actual creative inventor gets nothing, while the company they work under gets the patent to exploits the demand.
If employees owned the means of production, this would be a moot point... Just pointing that out for people.
It would be way less of a problem for sure, but not moot. An individual inventor can still stop other people from using an identical solution simply for being first to file the paperwork.
Sure, evidence?
Most big authors and artists dedicate their lives to their craft because, and this is true, once they finish writing a book or recording a song, they'll get paid for people who buy or stream them. Without copyright, there's zero reason to pay them.
Seems highly arbitrary. I always think about how early airplane tech was almost all developed in Europe because no one in America could work on anything adjacent after the Wright Bros patented their flyer. Intellectual property is intellectual theft.
Where's all the people shouting how awesome capitalism is, private ownership, the communists will come steal everything from you.
Here come capitalists to steal everything you own so they can make more money. Copyright, shmopyright. They've also got eminent domain on their side to build walls and data centers
But you don't get to enjoy copyrighted materiel yourself
"Rent it again if you love it so much."
A follow up question, please:
Q: So, what is illegal for an AI firm to do?
Being "woke".
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Trump’s government siding with OpenAI is peak MAGA economics: copyright is sacred until Silicon Valley needs millions of other people’s books, articles and art for free. Then suddenly property rights become an annoying obstacle to »winning the AI race.« Apparently America First now means AI companies first, creators somewhere near last.
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That is awesome, anyone can train an AI model and use copyrighted materials. So this is the end of IP laws?
Except you can't train an AI model from another AI model. Well, not from an American AI model, anyways. I'm sure others are fair game.
Copyright is conveniently only flexible for multibillion dollar AI firms.
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