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A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype. Proud supporter of working people. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.
AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
Didn't care when the arts and humanities were being scraped dry, but suddenly they're all coming out against it now that they're going after the sciences
What a weird read of the situation. The existence of AI does not threaten the artistic process. Whereas this directly threatens the way science works.
Artists already get their work flashed as AI just because some models copied and popularized their style.
And people use this tools to copy and even imitate original artist creating huge losses.
"STEM bros"? I didn't know being introverted physics dept guys made you a "bro". I missed out on all of those frat parties I guess.
Wtf is a STEM bro? That's not something I've ever heard of until this post.
Something made-up by people who think significant numbers of people in science & engineering hate artists. People in science & engineering do not hate artists and, for the most part, loathe the effect AI is having on suppressing human creativity. The bastards are, and have always been, the people who claim to love tech despite being tech-illiterate.
Nerds ≠ techbros.
One has been publishing research about environmental impact of generative AI datacenters since 2019.
The other has been going on twitter talking about how "chatgpt will replace the artists."
One invents math that can recognize cancer cells.
The other applies it to security cameras for the surveilance state.
In general, the people most critical of AI have been those that trained their own one at home for fun, and knew from beginning how fucking overhyped it is.
Cal Newport does a great job illuminating the distinction between the marketing hype and the technical reality. I'm sure most here are familiar with his views, but if not: https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=jxM35ij5VGg
Capitalism destroying community and embracing individuality which is the antithesis of human evolution.
Who woulda thunk?
this has been a thing well before “ai” - search for a domain in arin or internic or others back in the day, pass on it, and tomorrow hrm it’s no longer available.
What's happening here? I'm out of the loop... Who is Terry Tao? Who didn't care about arts and humanities? Who is destructdisc?
He's considered one of the greatest mathematicians alive, if not the best. Youngest to compete in the international math olympiad, bronze at age 10 in 1986, silver in 87, and gold in 88. Got his phd at 20, became the youngest full professor at 24 at UCLA, and was the youngest to earn the fields medal at 31.
Math prodigy that was taking university level classes at age 9. At some point said AI is like slightly-worse-than-decent math graduate.
AI divided us like few things before. Musicians cry out because AI steals their music while using AI generated backdrop animations on their tours and academics use ChatGPT to summarize things but become outraged when their work is fed into the machine. Lets hope tech bro audacity will unite us against them the same way they divided us.
basically everyone thinks their work doesn't deserve to be done shittily by llms but doesn't mind doing someone else's that way.
Except a large number of coders. I worked as a software engineer for a while and I can see how. It wasn't long before I no longer took any pride in the boring software I wrote for the company whose mission meant nothing to me. I would absolutely be using AI if I was still there. The code I write now is for personal satisfaction and enrichment though, so I do it myself.
Sadly that seems to be the case but maybe they'll come around and work together in their shared hatred for big tech eventually. Maybe this lesson can teach us to be more considerate towards each other as a society.
100000% yes.
Lmao look at all the nerds you pissed off with this one bahahaha. “I’m not a brooooo”
Bro!! 😂
Can we keep the well-deserved took-you-long-enoughs for AFTER we deal with the crisis at hand, though?
We need all the help we can get.
"STEM" bros? What the fuck are you smoking, OP?
Being against LLMs should mean being against science somehow?
There is no such concept as STEM bros. Science community has its own problems but being generally anologous to tech bros or fintech bros is not it. Being very strongly curiousity driven, they may indeed be oblivious to how something fucks up other parts of the society but that is very far removed from trying to abuse technology to gain billions. Not that there isn't an intersection, there is, but not big enough to warrant a generalization. In any case if the issue is billionaires fucking up research for money, they will more often be on your side against the billionaires then not (open science movement was one such reaction). But they would rather free AI from billionaire domination then reject it out right.
There is no such concept as STEM bros
tech bros
What does the T in STEM stand for
what does the S, E, M in STEM stand for?
Yea I work in science and there absolutely are STEM bros that are only interested in tricking funding bodies and making up stuff for grants and have zero interest in actually producing good research.
You know for a bunch of highly educated people, it's quite dumb of them to not realize this was going to happen.
to not realize this was going to happen
Except that they did.
Exhibit B: Weapons of Math Destruction (published in 2016)
Live by the slop, die by the slop. Zero sympathies.
OpenAI stole research out from under mathematicians' noses and now suddenly all the STEM bros are very hot and bothered
Didn't care when the arts and humanities were being scraped dry, but suddenly they're all coming out against it now that they're going after the sciences
Simply not true.
Exhibit A: I Will Fucking Piledrive You If You Mention AI Again