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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 14 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

meaning, "Block whichever sites we say."

Yet another FREEDOM bill from the Party of FREEDOM

[–] ki4jgt@feddit.org 10 points 2 hours ago

There are literally open DNS providers who run their own networks. Good luck.

[–] FearfulSalad@ttrpg.network 31 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It'd really be nice if "Huh. This protects corporate interests more than taxpayer interests. Denied." was a thing in government.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 28 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I have a seedbox in a country that gives no fucks, so I'll just use a DNS provider in a country that gives no fucks. You can make it harder, but you can't make it impossible.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

And it's not like it's so much harder to press a few extra buttons. Bonus: you're safer online, so if anyone wants to go down the road, they'll just be safer online.

They're all a bunch of fucking idiots, the people making these bills.

[–] upandatom@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Wish people would realize they are NOT idiots.

This erodes privacy and allows character assassinations on anyone who wants to be safe and/or private by using those VPN that do not comply. Is your mega ISP really going to stand up for your rights under this? Can you really get a new ISP at the "press of a few buttons"?

You aren't the only one here not understanding how "this doesn't directly affect me" bc you have the technical skills to avoid it. It does affect you, even if only by the chilling effect of it being more difficult to discuss online.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 42 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Piracy keeps the poors occupied and busy so they don’t riot. There’s no blood left to squeeze from that rock, they’re not going to buy streaming. Games are in decline as systems die of go outdated, and corporate erodes the quality of development.

They’re idiots if they push this bill in earnest.

Look what happened the last time people had too much time on their hands (Covid). And everyone has a lot more to pissed about, now.

[–] mierdabird@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Your last paragraph crossed my mind recently as the oil prices really start to spiral out of control. There were so many protests bordering on riots because people were stuck at home due to covid - now we're already hearing news that truckers are starting to sit idle instead of driving at a loss.

Imagine how much free time and how much anger everyone will have when the economy grinds to a halt from product shortages all over the country.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 hours ago

Oh look a distraction that also gets corporate donors. Its also divisive and gets people talking.

Probably the most pressing issue of the day. Surely there is nothing else to work on.

[–] NathanRanch@lemmy.zip 34 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

"Issa argued that online piracy helps fund terrorist groups and other criminal networks. ". I never thought of AI companies as terrorists, but it's a good label for the harm it's caused

[–] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

That's been the talk track since back on VHS. Apparently copying that tape from Block Buster went straight into buying drugs and weapons.

There was a very weird PSA video I think they put out there at the beginning of some of them.

Edit, yup: https://youtu.be/qcrrZ8X3UKM

[–] LostCarcosan@lemmy.today 16 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Um... Piracy funds terrorist groups? Handing out software for free earns money?

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Well, technically it can, in that some piracy installs things that make them money, and that can go for their private gain or their pet projects. Kinda like how google offers you free products that make money for them.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

the ironic part of this is in some cases it can. Pirate broadcasts and media boxes are becoming increasingly common to have subscription models for way cheaper than you would having the traditional streaming subs.

We are in a world where even piracy is starting to cost money in some cases fair cause convienence, but its still weird to think about. Everything always goes full circle.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 166 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I use those to train my AI though. It’s not piracy if there’s money.

[–] FoxAlive@lemmy.zip 23 points 6 hours ago

It was openai or meta that claimed because they didn't seed the torrent that it wasn't really piracy.

So piracy only starts becoming bad when it takes the form of communism/socialism lol.

The theft for a major corperation? Thats just good ol reliable capitalism.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 51 points 7 hours ago

“Sonarr has escaped containment 😱!!!”

[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 85 points 7 hours ago

Thank GOD! ONLY Billionaires should be Allowed to Pirate EVERYTHING EVER MADE!

-Republicans!

[–] angband@lemmy.world 102 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Non of the people pirating content have money to buy more stuff. These tens of billions they talk about don't exist.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 78 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Non of the people pirating content have money to buy more stuff

How DARE you!

My piracy is morally; not financially driven

[–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 hours ago

We standing on principal over here. I'll continue supporting indie devs and small projects but mega corp has too much and won't be getting anything from me.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 30 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Mine is accessibility driven.

Oh, wanted to watch that series from last year to end? Too bad, it's gone now.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

If you're using a semi colon, you need to make sure it's a stand alone sentence on both sides.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago

You think they care about things like facts, or logic? No. This is, and always has been about control.

Even the business side of things know piracy doesn't actually hurt business, it helps it. They've conducted studies on this since 2004. They found that the vast majority of pirates are actually the biggest spenders. They found more often than not a pirate will download a movie, or an album or a game, or whatever. Then within a month buy that same thing they just pirated.

Thats the reason you used to see these record labels try to stop piracy back in the days of kazaa and napster, and limewire. There used to be lawsuits where they'd sue some household for 20 million dollars. Knowing they don't have it. Well what ended up happening is they ended up suing this elderly man who had no idea what limewire was. He didn't know how to use a computer. And the only one who used the computer was the 8 year old boy, who now had to live with his grandpa, because both his parents were killed by a drunk driver. Now this record label was trying to put his grandfather 20 million in debt. For someone who had no idea who the black eyed peas. When they kept asking him about it, he asked why they kept asking him about soup if this was about music theft.

As the case went on, it was revealed that between his parents, and other family members, he had a cd collection, including the albums accused of stealing, worth over $5,000 worth of cds.

The whole thing turned the public against record labels, and painted them as the bad guys for trying to ruin peoples lives over music. To this day I haven't heard of another time they tried that tactic.

And the republicans know this.

You have to remember one thing. The cruelty is the point. It doesn't need to make sense. It just needs to punish their enemies. And at times even punish their own base. I saw a story last night where a guy who voted for trump was complaining that insulin used to be $6, and now it's $80 under trumps new plan. And he said "I didn't think it would happen to ME!"

And thats where we are right now. Just leaving the fuck around stage. Now entering the find out portion of our journey.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 24 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (4 children)

I would be surprised if most US politicians are capable of understanding the concept of duplicating files on a computer

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[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

Draconian control of how we use the technology of the internet.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 49 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

how do they plan to enforce this with foreign VPNs?

[–] zipfile1782@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

I think they could order Visa / Mastercard / etc. to ban payments to that entity, but 99% of the cases there are ways around it, just ask Putin, he always knows a way to sell petrol to EU / US

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 65 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Don't try to explain technology to them. It won't work.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 hours ago

they'll try to pass it anyway. if republicants lose majority, it'll be a horrific couple of months as they try to ram and cram every piece of shit legislation they can think of through before the new session starts.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 20 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You see, it's a series of tubes...

[–] imvii@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

Are you sure it's not a big truck?

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 hours ago

Make those illegal too probably

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[–] PierceTheBubble@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

And how exactly do you plan on curbing addressing through cryptographic hashes, instead of IP addresses directly, where client and server are separated through intermediary nodes? If the site exists on an anonymizing network (like I2P or TOR), it becomes a lot harder to identify the IP address of centralized services, and impossible where decentralized. Well, unless you go fully authoritarian, and only allow weakened encryption standards: exploited by authorities, and others aware of ways to exploit the weaknesses.

But I suppose this further disincentivizes ordinary, less tech-savvy, would-be "pirates", that need the clear-web for torrent links... Which we should make our responsibility, to enrich the knowledge of said persons, so that they can bypass regulations of governments, that fundamentally act against their best interests. It's time for people to rediscover torrenting, like many households did in the 2000's, instead of giving away their freedoms to subscriptions, purely for the sake of short-term convenience.

[–] phx@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They don't give a shit about any of that they just say "jump" and expect people to do something in response

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, I'll jump...

...onto them and take them to the ground as I beat the shit out of them.

[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 50 points 7 hours ago

Oh, I run a new company called FaceMeta, and this is all being stolen for “training” - therefore perfectly 100% legal according to capitalism

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 38 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

soo many stupid things with this... but this one i thougt funny.. its like the poopholeloophole... restaurant wifi is exempt

It would also exclude Wi-Fi networks offered on the premises of airports, libraries, restaurants, retail stores, and similar establishments.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 19 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I wonder if someone is going to go around chucking solar enabled pi’s onto the roofs of fast food joints and set them up with wireguard or headscale and sell it as proxy network.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Tossing self-powering rogue access points onto roofs to get around fascistic legal censorship by proxy of VPNs through McDonalds is one of the most we-have-entered-the-Matrix sentences ever.

Someone should submit this technique as an article to 2600

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago

“Site-blocking orders force any service provider, from residential broadband providers to global DNS resolvers, to disrupt traffic from targeted websites simply accused of copyright infringement.”

I know a few sites I can accuse of copyright infringement... (x, M$, FB, etc.)

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 11 points 7 hours ago

America’s small businesses cannot afford to be treated as ‘acceptable collateral damage’ for multibillion-dollar entertainment and sports industries.”

"some of you will not make it but that's a sacrifice i'm willing to make"

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