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[–] Jackusflackus@lemmy.world 80 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I may be in the minority but I hate trucks. I always will have a smaller sedan. Am US.

[–] bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

I would like a small, pre-2012 truck that is just used for hauling shit I need to the house, like wood, pellets, feed, etc.

What I find are dick-measuring vehicles where you have to lean forward to ensure no pedestrians are in front.

Still searching...

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

Theres a reason first gen Tacoma's are still over $20k for a decent one. and they usually have over 300k miles. Such a great sized, good driving, easy to work on little pickup. (Minus the stupid frame recall).

Everything made today is shit. So hold on to your 90s cars guys.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

If you're fine with a trailer, this would be a viable option. In Europe, almost nobody uses a truck and we still haul a lot of shit around. You'd be surprised what a sedan can pull.

This way you would only have the higher drag when really needing it and the low cost of a smaller car the rest of the time.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I don't see how that could be a minority opinion. Don't let the "Americans are bad people" posts get to you.

[–] Jackusflackus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

It’s not getting to me at all. Just saying where I am, majority truck central is a thing.

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[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

P much same. Have a crossover bc poor and that was the only used car in my area that was clean title, under 200k miles and not a shitty American-made brand, but it averages 32 mpg and I’m wanting my next vehicle to be a hybrid at minimum.

Seeing pristine baby coddling pickups pisses me off every time.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Am not US but otherwise felt the same, for a long time.

Now recently road conditions have been deteriorating quite badly where I live. With potholes everywhere, sedans and other small cars with delicate suspensions just get damaged all the time by the road. This, along with heavy snow and slush in the winter, has caused me to rethink my stance.

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[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 60 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I actively despise those massive pavement princesses and lose respect for any person who has one. They’re a must-have in the “macho insecure man-child” starter pack.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Trucks are demonstrably more dangerous than other vehicles on the road.

My unpopular opinion is that truck drivers should pay a higher penalty when they're involved in accidents. Every moving violation in a truck gets bumped up, one degree, from civil to misdemeanor, from misdemeanor to felony. By driving a pickup truck you are choosing to endanger other drivers on the road.

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 25 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I agree. Funny enough, when the taller vehicles were first becoming popular, "I can see everything" was popular. Well, if your visibility is improved, you should be penalized more for being at fault.

Even more so with all these driving assistant systems, if you rely too heavily on them (thinking OK to text and drive), that's on you for still causing an accident. Those systems are to aid alert drivers, not replace them.

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[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

They’re also not performance vehicles, but everyone tries to drive them like they are and none of them care to give you any indication of what they are intending to do.

[–] LoreSoong@startrek.website 32 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

What i find most interesting is that the modern style truck that people are buying are actually so awful to use for real work. The increased bed height makes it harder to hand load to the point that they added integrated stairs in the door which doesnt help at all because youre still climbing wasting energy. When getting tools out of the back seat if your not 7 feet tall you cant reach in without physically climbing in. They kinda just suck in comparison to the old. When i see trucks like the one below i genuinely think that person is using it as intended probably likes that model more than something theyd buy new. My brain cant help but comment "thats a real truck with a real contributer to society inside"

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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

nobody is using them for real work. they are status symbols.

they make fleet/commercial vehicles for real work.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Especially in the south, but not limited to, you see a lot of new Z71's and Raptors with lift kits, brush guards, spray in bed liners and diamond plated bed boxes in office parking lots, all with pristine trailer hitches.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

pavement princess compensation carriers

[–] TownhouseGloryHole@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

People who modify their Raptors, generally are only making them less capable.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And they're expensive status symbols at that. I don't own a pickup anymore but I've had a few and the total cost of ownership is quite a bit higher than for a relatively nice but economical passenger car.

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[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure that's a gmt400, haven't heard of a gavril before!

[–] pahlimur@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It is. Gavril is a made up brand from a game called beam ng. The game is basically car physics with some game attached and gavril are the trucks similar to an s10 up to a gm 3500.

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[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Not a silver bullet but we seriously need to reform the CAFE standards that reward automakers for producing vehicles with larger footprints.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump just lowered the standards lol

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[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

And people pay 80k plus for those. It's ridiculous. I can't imagine just throwing away thousands a year on gas, maintenance, insurance, truck nuts etc. all while renting an apartment.

[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 19 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

In the US, trucks got so big because of poorly-thought-out EPA regulations that mandated specific gas mileage based on hood height rather than tonnage. In order to be subjected to the lower, more achievable targets, the hood height has to be above a certain number or else the truck can't be sold.

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

No kidding, not to mention the footprint regulations forcing all cars to get bigger. Can't even sell an ICE smart car in the USA anymore because it's not efficient enough for its footprint! Old Subaru gc8 is a small car and would require 75+ mpg to be sold under current regulations, so we just have bigger Subarus to increase footprint and get them back under regulation. Manufacturers love regulations because more regs = higher price = more profit per vehicle sold. Ever wonder why screens used to be illegal in cars, but now anything under 10k lbs is legally required to have a TV screen and back up camera?

[–] Tja@programming.dev 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Too bad they wrote it with the un-erasable ink, otherwise after a few decades someone would've done something to fix it.

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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

marketing works.

i drive a small hatchback, and everyone who isn't another small hatchback owner makes passive aggressive commentary about my car. The social pressure to conform and buy a mid-sized or larger SUV/truck is insane, and most folks cave to it. (and now the new thing is 'you have to buy an EV' social pressure).

especially as a well-paid middle aged person, the implication is that I am an economic failure at life, and 'self-respect' demands I drive a large expensive vehicle to display my status. Like I have had many folks lecture me about how at my age/money I need to own a 'nice' car (e.g. 50-60K+ MSRP)

I am in the market for a new car and I am going to get another small hatchback. I have looked at small trucks and other vehicles but the economics don't make any sense. I'd pay a lot more money for no additional benefit.

FWIW my first car was a 10 year old hand me down SUV. And I absolutely hated driving it. It was huge, slow, and got like 8mpg, but my idiot parents insisted I had to drive it because it was 'safe'.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Maybe it's because I am in tech, but not a single person in my friends group drives a pickup truck. Even now that I've moved to Wyoming, there are no truck owners. To be fair, pickups suck in our weather. A lot of Subaru and vans though.

I guess what I am saying is that maybe gas guzzling pickups aren't an American thing as much as they are a specific type of American thing.

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[–] Tja@programming.dev 15 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Public transport is for commies, and electric vehicles are gay.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Which makes you a gay commie if you ride on one of those electric trams. Makes a man want to just.. curl up and die.. maybe curl up in a comfortable place, next to his extremely straight friend. Maybe he wraps his arms around you, not too tight, just enough. Maybe he leans in and whispers in your ear, that it's going to be ok. Your nice and safe in your extremely straight friend's large, muscular arms. The tender kiss is a surprise, but a welcome one. It takes you away to a land without worry. Where the only two people that exist are you, enveloped in his embrace. Just thinking about the electric tram makes you so angry, and his loving arms wipe it away as they tear away your clothes in an extremely straight and macho way. There's nothing gay about a little blowjob, you tell yourself, as you ta-

I'm sorry were we talking about robot Teslas?

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[–] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

We say that, but if the prices maintain habits will change. After the Iraq invasion in 2003, I saw people buy more and more smaller city cars over the next half a dozen years (at least in Canada).

Even GM, Chrysler and Ford were bringing small cars to the market until 2008-2010.

Once affordability and credit dry up, there'll be demand for small hybrids, economy cars and electric cars. SUVs and Pickups are just popular because car loans were so cheap. And gas prices have never been as low as the last decade.

[–] pahlimur@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Its already happening. 2000 f350 7.3L ZF6 4x4 rust free is worth less than 4k, trying to sell it for a recently widowed person and it sucks. Truck value, especially diesel, is shitting the bed.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The older I get, the less and less heed I pay to supply and demand Econ101. I don't think it's a coincidence that Americans "choose" the most profitable kind of vehicles.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Supply and demand is a framework, not a model. It doesn't say anything.

Apparently the entire internet failed to learn Econ101.

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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

For the 2027 model year, GM/Chevrolet are bringing back the ~~350~~408! 6.7L of V8 power, up from a measly 6.2L!

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 7 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I just want an electric 90s S-10/Ranger. Someone, just make that truck. I'm begging you. I'm so tired of these big boxy pieces of shit.

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[–] iamericandre@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Prius go wooooosh

[–] TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As an American, I cannot confirm this.

This big trucks are basically just worse minivans for the most part anyway.

No third row seating option, similar cargo capacity, and significantly worse gas mileage.

Obviously you can tow stuff. But outside of that? Meh. I’d rather have a small truck like a Ridgeline if I were to get one at all.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

The thing with the Ridgeline is that it is a mid size truck that is still unibody with a max tow capacity of 5000lbs. The smaller, cheaper Hyundai Santa Cruz also has a tow capacity of 5000lbs. That's why I went with the Santa Cruz. I do wish it had a foot more of bed length.

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[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Rivians sell pretty well from what I hear.

Wish they'd sell them in Australia.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 11 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Rivians are uggo and too big. I'll have a nice, sensible (electric) hatchback or sedan, please.

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[–] OnyxRex@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

I do actually want a truck. I like to thrift shop and do home projects. being able to move furniture and construction materials would be nice. Too bad they're stupid big, full of tech garbage, and 30K. I just want a little ford ranger or something. There's no reason it should cost as much as it does when the only people using it are tradesmen and posers. A truck is meant to be the work horse of vehicles. Somehow they convinced enough people to pay a premium price for a thing that has near no versatility.

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