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Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

Oct 01, 2026, 11:32 PM

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Im sorry but I did not contribute to this in any meaningful way.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

People on here think too highly of themselves and the Fediverse. The overwhelming majority of people here don't know the basics of programming and of the few that do, the vast majority of them don't make any contributions. Even to those who do contribute, comparing themselves or the Fediverse WWW and the people who built it rather arrogant, no?

At the end of the day, the Fediverse would be better off going through a reality check. It's a niche alternative to mainstream social media that trades content for privacy. The tech is neat and the idea behind it is noble, but that's about it. It's not going to revolutionize the internet any time soon.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 hours ago

Software developers are on Mastadon, though. Big time.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago

The internet itself was once a niche alternative to mainstream knowledge

The way I see it is, that we are all good or even experts at something. The internet is not only about programming alone. The frustration comes from people who 30 years ago spent time discussing and sharing all kinds of knowledge on websites, forums or wikis but now, large corporations charge money to present the same knowledge more conveniently, but not always in the right context

This includes programming, but also gardening, how to ferment cabbage, how to clean a smoking pipe, what to feed guinea pigs.

It is definitely doable, but will take many decades

[–] HeHoXa@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yes, bow to me, the grand architect of geocities Dragon Ball Z pages.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

bows deeply

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 5 points 20 hours ago

You checked out Neocities yet? I've been thinking of signing up.

We thank you for your service.

[–] The_Almighty_Walrus@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Never thought I would say we need to decentralize the Internet

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

Yeah... That shit with ICANN and Autistici kinda raises some red flags now though...

[–] lordziv@lemmy.nz 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I personally blame the iPhone. Shit all started going downhill from then

[–] SpacemanSpiff@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

God what i would do for Nokias to be viable again. I actually still have my old 6085. Looks brand new, still gets 2 weeks of battery. If it wasn't for banking apps I would still be using that thing

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Nope. You got the time period right, but I would like to posit it’s when they started letting our Parents, drunk uncles and dumb ass aunties on Facebook.

The problem always has, and always will be, Facebook.

[–] lordziv@lemmy.nz 1 points 4 hours ago

But what made it more accessible and easy to access places like Facebook in the first place? Smart phones.

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[–] Doom@lemmy.world 73 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Fuck that. I don't regret it. We built the world wide web from nothing for everyone and had it fucking stolen by rich assholes who put our community resources WE developed behind ads and paywalls. Unlike those uncreative hacks we have the talent to take it back.

[–] UninvestedCuriosity@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

/fistclench

We exist without skin color,
without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals.
You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us
and try to make us believe it's for our own good,
[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 5 points 23 hours ago

The WWW was built for everyone.

We let rich assholes steal it out of laziness.

Take for example, Facebook vs MySpace or similar. Making a Facebook is instant, making a MySpace took effort. Setting up a subreddit is instant and free and gets you an immediate registered audience, setting up a vBulletin or similar forum is time-consuming and costs money and getting any traffic is an uphill battle. Same thing with posting- on Reddit just mozy on over to that sub and hit post, on a forum you have to register. Or you want to make videos? Gotta pay for a decent web hosting plan, lots of bandwidth, and deal with encoding, playback scripts, etc. Or just make a YouTube and hit 'upload'.

So we let big platforms take over the Internet. We gained a fuckton of features and convenience. We didn't consider what we lost- creativity, and the independence of not having to make everything advertiser-friendly.

Monetization is the other frenemy. It's great that creators can get paid for their work easily. But what we lose with that is every creator pandering to the algorithm, every video begs 'like comment and subscribe!', videos shy away from advertiser-unfriendly topics, and the kid filter brainrot is starting to infect common lexicon ('my brother got caught watching corn and now he's gonna unalive himself with a pewpew' type nonsense).

For that reason I think decentralization and federation are the way out.

Look at forums for example- one of the biggest barriers to entry was registration, getting people to care enough to bother registering. Lemmy fixes that, and you can still make a community as closed and private as you want.

I'm hoping a new group of websites will spring up from this. My only fear is they will all drown in a sea of AI slop.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The bit we should regret is that we let the rich corporates steal it.

[–] BrownSugarBits@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

for 40+ people who built the WWW then sold it to the enshitifiers, which they now regret

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

It was not sold. It was taken/stolen

[–] GenLe@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In our defense, corporations ruined the world wide web. It still has so much potential if they weren't involved.

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[–] hactar42@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Hell yeah, my geocities Nine Inch Nails fan site helped build the Internet

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[–] XopherH@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would like to deny this, but I can't.

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[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It was supposed to make everything better, we were sure of it.

We were horribly wrong. Sorry.

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[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago

well I feel seen

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (4 children)

Mario teaches typing and the Oregon Trail on 5.2499" disks were just a dream.

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[–] likebudda@reddthat.com 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a call center employee, the most inexplicably difficult part of my job is asking an older person to navigate to our website. When I give them the 9 letter address, it almost always results in a google search for them and the ordeal of having them try to pick out our website from the sponsored results brings joy to advertisers everywhere.

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 298 points 1 day ago (41 children)

there’s 2 kinds of people on fedi:

40 year olds who remember the good ol days of the interwebs

16 year old queer shitposters who got tired of getting called every slur imaginable on other networks

both are into linux

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago
[–] AquilineFeline@lemmus.org 2 points 6 hours ago

What about us 20 somethings who vaguely remember the good ol days as they were fading away?

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[–] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 32 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Did we build the world wide web or did we just shitpost for the lulz for decades without realizing we gave all the benefits of our shitposting to Mark Zuckerberg?

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[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 74 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

Come now, at least half of Mastodon/*key users are genderqueer twentysomethings who are mind-bogglingly good with computers.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] key95@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Lawyer: You can't divorce your wife, just because she's a bit odd.

Micky: I said, she's fucking Goofy!

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