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[–] mr_account@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I think people should have what they wish on others.

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago

And they call you a leftists radical for this

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What really sucks is when the people who claim to be unhappy with conservatism defend conservatives as if they are the victims of their own evil nature or idiocy.

Conservatives are not the victims of conservatism. They are the perpetrators of conservatism and should be treated as such.

[–] stinkytofuisgood@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

For everyone on Earth minus a slight statistical anomoly, I agree!

Like, you know how cleaning wipes say they kill 99.99% of germs? Well I want the needs of 99.99% of the population met.

[–] sunsoaked_lily@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

who do you think doesnt deserve to have their needs met?

[–] stinkytofuisgood@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Billionaires knowingly perpetuating a harmful economic system for their own gain. Politicians and high-level government officials knowingly perpetuating a harmful political and legal system for their own gain.

How I define harmful in this context: neglecting the needs of the many for the benefit of the few.

Knowingly: repeating an action despite clear evidence or representation from the majority under their control. Or restricting public access to something that is harming them with the intent to continue the harmful behaviour.

Obviously its a little more nuanced than that, but that's the jist.

[–] sunsoaked_lily@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

are you talking about these people's access to food being restricted or about murder? if it's the former, then i think that removing their power to harm would be more effective. if it's the latter i think that's kind of different from what the post is talking about.

[–] stinkytofuisgood@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Any method that permanently stops them from continuing the harm.

I will be 100% aligned with this post when that's achieved.

[–] sunsoaked_lily@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

i agree, but i don't think that that contradicts the post. the path to a better world from this one is necessarily messy and in this situation nothing can be achieved cleanly. in this context i feel like you'd have to add a caveat to every single universal human right we're working towards because there are people in the way. you aren't arguing that they should denied food and shelter, youre arguing that they should be stopped from hurting people. i think you belong fully in the 'everyone deserves to have their basic needs met' camp

[–] stinkytofuisgood@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

You make a compelling point.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My basic need is to watch people I disagree with suffer.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just because I like a little pineapple on my pizza?!

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[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If everyone has their needs met, who will they be better than? They need a hierarchy. They're already poor and powerless, so they have to lord it over the destitute.

[–] kolmaskommentoija@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Everyone having their needs met does not even mean, they cannot have some sort of social order system going... Anyway, they do not seem to be smart enough, to imagine that.

[–] tigermountain@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago (8 children)

What's the balance between what the government should provide towards our basic needs vs what the individual is responsible for?

[–] karlhungus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Food, shelter, health care, education are provided for all, regardless of contribution or ability to contribute.

I'm not sure how to pay for that, how to deal with metric gaming, or people who dont want the above. Also how to deal with externalities like climate change or conflicts.... But I can dream!

[–] maxthemummer@lemmus.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The balance is that a full time job should enable you to provide the basic needs for yourself.

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[–] abc@suppo.fi -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

That's my political view also. This is why I support anti-corruption free market capitalism, the system with most proven track record for getting us closer to that goal.

I fully admit that the anti-corruption part of the ideology is the unfortunate hard thing that needs the most work, and countries like USA have been pretty bad at doing that part.

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