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[–] iatenine@piefed.social 10 points 11 hours ago

Looks at long list of EVs that don't rhyme with Besla

[–] OriginalTangle@feddit.org 16 points 12 hours ago

Car sizes will continue to increase until morale improves.

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 20 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

I just want public transit...

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The current administration is in the process of abolishing what little we have. And they will.

[–] nanometer1625@thelemmy.club 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Public transit is mostly at the city and state levels. Amtrak is the only exception I can think of.

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[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 96 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Nah I'm good. I don't want a klanborghini from him.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 23 points 14 hours ago

Oh I like this. The Swastikar Deplorean is joined by the Swastikar Klanborghini.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 28 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

I bought a used 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5 for $25k. 30k miles. I know its still not cheap, but the ask the batteries have a 100k+ warranty.

77kW 220-280 miles at 100% (though I rarely go beyond 90% for battery life). 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, all wheel drive, CCS charger with NACS adapters available. Tesla chargers max at 96kW just fyi, idk why. But a lot of quick chargers work better, there's 2 65xkW, 4x180kW near me. There's a 4x375kW and a 4x400kW on a regular distance trip I take. Those are stupid fast charging.

A standard 120v is 1.4kW max, and it works out to about 10%/11hrs. A 240v is much better (i can't remember maybe its like 10kW) charges fully in about 8 hours.

Kia and Hyundai are awesome EVs. I've heard good things about Subaru's. The Chevy Bolt I've heard less good about. Toyota's EVs are disappointing. Avoid Polestar - they aren't allowed to sell in the US anymore anyway, but the car has a fancy interior and is fun to drive until the AC stops working. And it's got weird software license gates for hardware it has.

Also don't find reasons to funnel money to Musk.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (6 children)

2027 Chevy Bolt driver here 👋. Urban car-dependent locale unfortunately.

Freaking love the Bolt. Got some good incentives and bought new, which felt sorta foolish at the time. Never ever bought new before. (But there were no used models under like 100,000 miles around us, and they were old ones with slow charging.)

It is a touch smaller than our CR-V, but they vastly improved this model and I enjoy it a lot. The LT was quite affordable, and I don't ask for much luxury. (IMHO my Honda Element was the best car ever.)

There's also third party module to get Android auto to work, I'm considering that.

I can say one thing though, even though having a payment sucks, I feel vindicated every time I drive by $6 gas.

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[–] ChaoticGoodHeart@sh.itjust.works 11 points 13 hours ago

Subaru and Toyota's EVs are the same cars with mild restyles, both should be similar mechanically and reliability wise. The Uncharted is definitely the nicest of the bunch in my mind, though.

[–] Nednarb44@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I've had a polestar for a couple years now, and it's by far my favorite vehicle. It has quirks, but most I can get past. I also have a kia EV and I fucking hate it. It forces you to get handheld through everything and it has some really dumb software choices. Everything I hate about then could be changed with a software update to give options, but I don't foresee that happening ever.

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[–] Sequentialsilence@lemmy.world 30 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (5 children)

Here’s the thing everyone seems to be forgetting. Once a motorized vehicle leaves the ground under powered flight it is no longer under DOT’s domain it is now under FAA’s domain. FAA licenses are way harder to get and way easier to lose. They also require annual tests to keep. This is why flying cars are a non starter, because to pilot them you need a general aviation license.

There are exceptions but it’s always in the ultralight or experimental categories. A release of this car will fit neither of those categories.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

They also require annual tests to keep

No they don't. Good for life, although I do need to do a flight review every 24 months

Flight reviews are pretty chill, juat do a flight with an instructor (or anyone else certified to sign off on it). We should require these for drivers too on license renewal

[–] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Yeah this car will never be for sale. There will be the $50,000 version which has none of the compressed air loaded into it, and a tuned up version with some boost for the 0-60. The flying car they showed yesterday was the only one that will ever do that, because it was a literal stunt for the shareholders.

[–] Nednarb44@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

From my memory, it's just a $50k reservation, and if that's the case, it's going to cost a lot more than that in actuality.

[–] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I think you're correct

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Correct. There is zero chance they ever come out with a flying car

New planes are fucking expensive. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. 50% of the cost of those planes is airframe certification and insurance for the manufacturer

Planes used to be war cheaper, but liability and bureaucracy has slowly been killing GA for a few decades

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[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

To be fair, with teslas track record we'd be lucky if a production "flying" car like this could achieve more air time than my Subaru when I go ditch banging 😂

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 12 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Even funnier, you're generally not allowed to land on roads so once you take off you have a problem with that flying car. Debris flying around will also be fun.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

What will be even more fun is getting eviscerated by an exploding pressurized gas tank they use to do that shit, in the tiniest crash known to man.

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[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

You can land on roads. It's just rare it would be safe and a good idea

Big tire super cubs do it pretty often in rural Alaska

Biggest problems landing on roads is power lines and traffic. If either are present, it's emergency only

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 3 points 11 hours ago

Not to mention insurance.

Also, don't pilots need to take annual physicals?

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 70 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

You see, Europeans cannot have the Cybertruck. Americans cannot have the R5. I can live with that, but then, I am European.

[–] Ariselas@piefed.ca 5 points 13 hours ago

Damn, I wish the Canadian market wasn't tied to the US

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[–] CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social -2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

What's annoying is people hyping up these "cheap" Slate trucks because they don't realize they don't even paint the fucking things so you're replacing a $3k wrap every three years and calling yourself frugal and environment friendly.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

You don't have to wrap it if you don't want to

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[–] FishFace@piefed.social 22 points 16 hours ago (38 children)

Batteries are expensive. Tesla had the best value EV for a long time until alternatives with real buttons and no nazis came along so this is a weird one.

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[–] MagicPterodactyl@lemmy.ml 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The thing is used EVs are so affordable that it's basically impossible for western companies to make something cheap enough to compete. The real answer is to allow Chinese EVs to be sold in the US.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 5 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

That's true until enough people wise up to the fact that a 3 year old used EV is nowhere near as worthless as a 3 year old used iPhone. That misunderstanding is what's keeping demand so low, which is why the price is so low. I shouldn't have been able to sell my 2016 RAV4 with 70k miles for $14k and buy a 2022 Bolt EUV with 50k miles for $19k earlier this year.

Chinese EVs won't be sold in the US any time soon. They are too big of a threat to American automakers, and the lust for profit growth will prevent any reasonable attempt at competing. Also, US infrastructure is so car-dependent that offshoring such a massive amount of car manufacturing would become a threat to national security. There's a big concern that by allowing Chinese EVs here, we would be handing the world to China; the uncomfortable truth is that we don't really have anything to offer to China these days. They've already won, and we're all just going through the motions of playing the final couple of rounds. They've dominated domestic infrastructure, renewable energy tech, battery tech, global soft power, etc. Next will be water purification, space exploration, and nuclear fusion. China invested in themselves and their future, and it's finally paying off.

Idk what the world looks like ten years from now in 2036, but I know that China will be leaps and bounds ahead of the US in pretty much every metric. Mostly because we've pissed away the past ten years being run by a fascist toddler, and walking back the fascist sprinting of the fascist toddler, and we'll be spending the next ten years attempting to convince former friends and allies that the fascist toddler is behind us and we won't do that again so please let's make deals again that could theoretically be nuked by another fascist toddler. Meanwhile, China just keeps innovating and sharing.

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