Yea everyone knows as soon as you have sex once you never feel lonely again.
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Seems like a lot of incels really believe it though
Yeah, totally! Getting my dick wet is precisely the kind of emotional and intellectual connection I'm missing! The penis is my data transfer cable.
"premarital sex" also known as sex
>It's not just about getting laid (though that's part of it.)
>It's also about friends
>But even in the "getting laid" part, it's moreso about a real emotional connection in conjunction with the sex, I believe they're called "relationships."
>while some is just incels, it's also normal people
>If we had more Third Spaces that aren't centered around booze and money, it'd go a long way to helping the issue
>it's not just men.
The "while some is just incels" in your code comment part had me for a while, genuinely made me think of programming
How does having sex once same as not being lonely? Sure I am lonely and virgin. But, I could just as easily be not virgin and still lonely AF.
Yea, I would imagine a 30-40 yo virgin may end up getting a sex worker. having sex with a sex worker doesn't really reduce loneliness.
- That is sex. You can have all the sex you want and still be lonely.
- Those stats are probably the "we asked some people" kind which means everyone who had their first relationship at 24 will say that "oh yeah technically i was with that random girl in grade school so you know what lets say its 12"
Anon conflates the desire for a more involved and expanded social life with just having sex, thereby perfectly explaining their lack of a more involved and expanded social life.
That’s definitely a decent chunk of what people in the media who talk about the ‘male loneliness epidemic’ are talking about, though. I don’t think I’ve read a single article about it that doesn’t devote time to how little sex young men allegedly aren’t having.
Maybe he just wants to hang out with the boys and fuck! Didn't think about that did ya?
They also want to capture the "lonely man" demographic and make them feel like it's not their fault, engage them and get their clicks/dollars.
Those stats cannot be right.
They’re not. Last I checked the percentage at age 30 was double digits.
Here’s one source:
In Japan, roughly 50% of young adults aged 18-29 report being virgins.
In the UK, about 46% of people aged 16-24 identify as virgins
10% of US males under 34 are virgins.
OP is lying.
That is not how source work. Without citation you are just claiming that it is a different number. This is in no way better than what you are disputing.
It's from this site which seems to aggregate different sources.
I dont know what it's worth.
edit: typo
It made me feel better so it's real now.
18-29
That's hell of a range here. You can be 19 when you've been asked the question and lose your virginity next year.
He could not be in america.
16.8? jesus.
I wanna see some breakdowns of these stats by country and socioeconomic factors
Is it usually earlier in the US? Sounds a bit on the high side for where I live too.
Imo sounds about right, people were getting mighty horny around that time and started having sex. Few years earlier even
I lost my v card at either 16 or 17, I forget which year exactly...
So yeah, 16.8 makes sense as an average.
Yeah. Even if we assume that the average age was 1 or 2 years higher when I was that age, there's no way that the numbers in my highschool class where anywhere close to that. Out of like 16 guys, I know of only a couple who even had a girlfriend while in school, which is probably more likely than casual sex at that age.
Plenty could have relationships outside school that they didn't talk much about.
I had my first sex at 16 and first relationships at 11, and my classmates weren't even remotely aware of how rich of a romantic/sexual life I already had, or that I had it at all.
I wasn't known as someone particularly likeable, either.
The number seems about right to me. Puberty starts at 12-ish, so does sexual exploration.
It's not sex when your sexual exploration amounts to masturbating and ogling people, though. It's possible that my classmates who had sex just didn't tell me, but most of the ones I was actually friends with definitely didn't have sex in highschool.
It’s possible that my classmates who had sex just didn’t tell me
we went to way different schools
It does sound pretty unlikely, but it's not impossible.
It's possible that my classmates who had sex just didn't tell me
Usually it's the exact opposite
Yup. the sexual loneliness epidemic is easing up, because we're all fighting back to 'normal'. But ask most men this simple question: how many non-sexual friends do you have in your life that you communicate with more than once a week?
Is it normal to talk to friends more than once a week? That seems like a strange standard imo. Even my besties and I touch base maybe once or twice a month at most, and see eachother once every 4 to 6 months.
Is it normal to talk to friends more than once a week?
Yes. It's very normal to talk to several friends per day, and to see several friends each week. Rotating through one's universe of friends, that might mean that there are a few friends you talk to at least a few times per week, some that you talk to a few times per month, and a some that you talk to a few times per year. And maybe you actually meet up in person a few times so that you're still seeing friends in person every week.
That level frequency isn't necessary, but it's kinda shocking to me that your comment suggests that you find it surprising that many other people are doing this.
I think that level of interaction might be normal in adolescence and even young adulthood, but by the time you're working, living on your own, and maybe have a family I really don't think most people talk to their friends that often.
That sounds normal to me, but it’s worth noting that when we were under Covid lockdown, I didn’t understand how so many people freaked out about it. I’ve always been sucky at social interactions and pretty much always felt lonely as a baseline. It’s like I’d been training for lockdown my entire life. Seeing others lose their minds trying to live the way I’ve always lived was quite awkward.
Which means for many people, your/my standards for social contact are way too infrequent. I don’t know what an average measurement would be, but it’s clear that our “normal” can’t be most people’s “normal.”
i think a simple "what do you feel right now" would stump half the population.
If they dont answer with the predifined "fine"
The predifined “fine” is either a real “i don’t know “ or “it’s too socially dangerous for me to say what I really feel “ imho
Or even “I think it would be nice to talk to you in more detail, but it’s really difficult to summarize my entire mental state in a short sentence, so to avoid you and I the headache, I’m just gonna say fine.”
IDK about 'loneliness epidemic', but 'lonely' IS my normal.
I do communicate with some friends more than once a week, but none of them even live in the same city as I do.
That's the hell of it, but if you feel lonely at a base level, I suggest you try to find or start community events. You'd be amazed how effective Meetup is.
Depends where you are, seems to be a pretty US-based thing. Here it is all weird stuff.
Fair enough, but I'm sure there's an alternative.
I have health issues that get in the way of in-person-socializing.
I don't really have a way to deal with that. I have my own issues, but I do fight past them to try being social whenever I can. The biggest thing I can say is to find groups who do voice & video chats more often.
15% is still quite bad tbh
Imma make that 15.1%