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[–] ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

The gop never does anything when there is a shooting. They don’t care and they never will.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Don't miscount their lack of action as a negligence. It's actually intentional because they want the mass shootings. When mass shootings happen, the Republicans jump up and clap hands with glee. They like that people are dying from their "lack of action". It furthers the police state that they want; kills voters that opposes them; undermines the premise of society's functionality in things like public education, public functionality, and the public's trust in rescue (remember that cop who stood outsidein Parkland?); and benefits their donors.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I love to talk to conservatives about this since i used to be a HUGE conservative and gun owner, till i got out of certain echo chambers and realized what was going on.

I will gladly have a factual, calm conversation about why we need gun control now and why the GOP has left their base behind. But no one will even have this conversation because the instant they hear the words "gun control," they get really defensive and the whole conversation is ruined.

But thoughts and prayers...

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

You can't talk about gun control. You just have to do it. Talking about it is a political death sentence. Similar to trans issues on the left. It galvanizes more opposition than support despite being supported by the majority of people.

It's like handing free Red Bull to the NRA.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Nothing at all? No thoughts? No prayers?

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

What do you mean nothing, "they are sending thoughts and prayers...."

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I love to talk to conservatives about this since i used to be a HUGE conservative and gun owner, till i got out of certain echo chambers and realized what was going on.

I will gladly have a factual, calm conversation about why we need gun control now and why the GOP has left their base behind. But no one will even have this conversation because the instant they hear the words "gun control," they get really defensive and the whole conversation is ruined.

But thoughts and prayers...

[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

But “absolutely nothing” is what they’re good at.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago (6 children)
[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

FUCKIN HERE HE COMES FROM THE FUCKIN TOP FUCKIN ROPE, OOOOOOOOOH WEE!

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Literally, but the sad truth we need to accept is that this is the only way most people engage with anything outside of themselves and their own world: through some dramatic narrative retelling in their heads.

It has been like this for millenia, since before we had words, we had series of images and imagined events chained together in our minds that made us feel things, or explained the way we felt.

We have the exact same brains we did tens of thousands of years ago, we are the same story-creature that rather understand the world through a story of heroes and villains than logic and understanding of systems.

This is what Trump capitalized on, likely drawing from his experience close to WWE and its owners and managers, to learn how people engage with media through cognitive dissonance, and he supplied narratives and dramatic retellings of complex stories to simple minds and won them over so thoroughly it's now basically a cult.

If we understood this sooner, we might have been able to get in the middle like Newsom is doing now, and create more engaging stories for them that serve greater good. But we thought ourselves better than that, and tried to scold, educate and demand more from a class of people who simply rather "see their wrestler win."

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Honestly, I'm more tired of people bringing this up than of seeing it in headlines.

How news and headlines are presented are meant to grab your attention, and it's definitely working because they continue to do it!

Both written and spoken language are forever evolving, and right now this is how the news is written. Seeing nonsense comments like this on almost every single article is just boring and doesn't add anything to the discussion.

In a couple years headlines will be using some other hot ticket words to keep things fresh.

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 34 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I occasionally listen to the local right wing radio show to check in on what bullshit they're saying.

They were going full speed ahead on the christian persecution complex, with not a single solitary fuck given to anything else, let alone preventative measures.

[–] officermike@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Well yeah, they have to take the Christian persecution angle on this one because they can't take the "this is what happens when you take God out of schools" angle.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you’re looking for reason or logic, it won’t be there.

They’re just footsoldiering for PutinAnalytica and Reichbart.

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[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago

Why would they do anything else, they’re the scum of the earth

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wtf does he want?! The GOP are sending all the thoughts and prayers they can over social media.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

PRAY HARDER.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Oh no

He slammed them

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm sure the white house will send out "thoughts and prayers" within the next few business days.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They were literally killed in the middle of "thoughts and prayers" it didn't seem to work for them. Maybe their god was one of the wrong ones.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They'll call it a hate crime against Christians and throw out the whole "most persecuted religion" argument out against.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

https://lemmy.world/post/35093128

Fox’s Rachel Campos-Duffy Declares ‘Christians Are the Most Persecuted Religion in the Universe’ During Segment About MN Shooting

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This one? Nah they’ll send ICE.

[–] joekar1990@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Probably blame it on the trans epidemic as well.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As long as he is suggesting that we fix the societal issues we face and not disarm ourselves while a fascist gov is literally sending soldiers into the streets and arming ICE like they're in a fucking war...sure.

[–] can_you_change_your_username@fedia.io 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes, Governor Homelesssweep is very interested in tackling the root causes of crime, drug dependency, and homelessness.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

You do realize that 49 states send us their homeless because they KNOW we take care of them right? Like I first hand delt with it as a bus driver and an officer says "He's on your bus. Take him somewhere." Several times.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

O, I know he's suggesting we disarm ourselves, but I'd take him over the pedo any day...which is sad that the bar is that fucking low.

He's better than close personal friend of Jeffery Epstein, Trump, but I prefer to wait until after the primaries to start making the comparison. Maybe we'll get a real left wing populist candidate and the Trump backlash will be enough to push them past the establishment candidates like Newsom that the DNC is likely to favor. If we're stuck with an establishment candidates I'd prefer Andy Beshaer. He's a popular southern red state governor so I think he'd have a better shot than Newsom and the establishment candidates are all going to do pretty much the same thing.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Have they ever not done nothing ?

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Serious question:

What do you want the GOP to do?

Banning guns isn't an option because of the 2nd Amendment.

Repealing the 2nd Amendment isn't an option because you need 290 votes in the house, 67 votes in the Senate and 38 States to ratify the change.

Confiscating 400 million guns? Do you really trust the GOP to go house to house taking guns away?

Look, it just happened this morning so we don't know EVERYTHING yet. The Chief of Police has said the shooter had no criminal record and bought the guns legally, assuming they had no mental health history that would have barred them, what do you want the GOP to do?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/27/us/robin-westman-minneapolis-church-shooting-suspect

"A search of state court records showed no criminal history for Westman, but some traffic citations in 2021."

https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-church-shooter-guns-permits/601462465

"Church shooter legally purchased rifle, pistol and shotgun"

If you leave it up to the GOP I guarantee their reaction will be to declare LGBTQ+ a mental illness and bar them from gun ownership based on that.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Why is it always straight to banning guns and “taking 400 million guns” when people say “what do you expect them to do?”

Gun control doesn’t mean taking away all guns, it means making sure that the people that have them are properly trained and responsible.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Agreed, which we don't do either. In the case of this most recent shooting though, the shooter was of age, had no criminal record, and bought the guns legally... sooo... ? How do you prevent that?

Unless something comes up, as it has with other shooters, that she had some sort of mental breakdown that didn't get reported to the background check system, there is no way to prevent it.

Look at the Parkland shooter:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolas_Cruz

His background has more red flags than a mayday parade, but because none of it went through a court and a judge, none of it appeared on his background report and he was able to buy guns legally.

"At this time, a school resource officer suggested[24] he undergo an involuntary psychiatric examination under the provisions of the Baker Act. Two guidance counselors agreed, but a mental institution did not.[25] State investigators reported he had depression, autism, and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), and had a history of attempting suicide. However, psychologist Frederick M. Kravitz later testified that Cruz was never diagnosed with autism.[26] In their assessment, the investigators concluded he was "at low risk of harming himself or others".[27] He had previously received mental health treatment, but had not received treatment in the year leading up to the shooting.[8]"

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You prevent that by funding mental health services and promoting a culture that encourages people to get help

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

+ mandatory reporting. People who need help the most wont seek it on their own.

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