FriendOfDeSoto

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Yahoo!tech digging deep for a story there.

I recognize that this is perhaps the motivation of the tech's peddlers right now. It's not a foregone conclusion that this is what's going to happen.

Just from an economic angle, they need somebody to pay for all of this. It isn't self sustaining. If we have no more jobs, no more artists, and all live broke, hand to mouth, who is going to pay for all this processing hardware they bought on credit, let alone the services they try to push on us that don't work? Until they can plug us in like in the Matrix there's still hope.

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 22 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I am in Japan where they have just discovered a cartel of ice cream manufacturers pushing up prices. Supply and demand. This is capitalism, baby!

This is a lawsuit, right? It'll go through a few judges' hands on appeals and what not and by the time the companies get their slap on the wrist in 2-5 years they will have made so much money it doesn't matter.

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's well worth it if you ask me. The school children can sit in the dark and hot/cold (delete as appropriate) so Bob in Idaho can generate a 30 second video of Yoda dancing to Wannabe in the style of Studio Ghibli, which he will look at once and then never again.

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 23 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Alibaba picking up Anthropic's fair use strategy?

Edit: is there an argument for letting the US ruin its economy and environment to train all these models and then just swooping in before it turns into a mild madmaxian hellscape to distill and/or extract the knowledge? Beats having to do this on your own, doesn't it?

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not like any other election before where tech companies had zero interests and just thought may the best team win.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer boss or company.

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're reading more criticism into that than I really feel. I just answered a question. And my original point was merely that while the article makes it almost sound like this ruling was final, it isn't. The war will be entering its second battle soon.

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 151 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Libre Office.

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So this was the regional court (Landgericht). The next one is the superior regional court (Oberlandesgericht) where Google will appeal now. Since I don't see any issues of the Bavarian constitution relevant to this case, the next one up is probably the federal court of justice (Bundesgerichtshof). And there is a small chance that either Google or the courts along the way decide to throw this to the EU court of justice.

Most decisions like this get suspended upon appeal, completely or partially, until people give up or there are no more courts to pester. But every appeal will be taken seriously and goes into review at the court whether there is merit to it. That takes time. And Google has the money for a frivolous tour through the courts. And then there is the danger of court ping-pong where the superior court sends this back with notes to the regional. Whose ruling may be appealed again, etc.

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 55 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Google can challenge the court’s ruling. As of writing, Google hasn’t decided whether it will appeal the verdict.

This article is out of date because Google has decided to appeal in the meantime.

This verdict is not legally effective yet. And it may never be. On the high seas and in a German courtroom, the people say, you're in God's hand. The next higher court can send this back to the lower court or could overrule it all together. And if they don't do any of that, Google can go to the next higher court. Every appeal will add anywhere from 6 months to 2 years to the timeline. By the time this gets a final ruling Skynet may have killed us all.

A Canadian singer/songwriter could surely do something with an article talking shit about so-called AI having a so-called AI bullet point summary at the top. Don't you think?

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 60 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And spray paint may be used for graffiti.

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