keiko

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[–] keiko@fedia.io 1 points 23 minutes ago

Oh, but you have variants of Ubuntu. Do you have them, because there are technically not part of Canonical?

Yeah, that's my reasoning for including them and for the row they occupy.

For me, CloneZilla is a sysadmin tool. Wouldn't have guessed that they don't have a SVG version of their logo.

I'm not saying they don't have an svg logo, just that I hadn't come across it when searching for as many operating system logos as I could find. I had started with distros I've used and then worked my way through popular distros. Clonezilla had seemed more of a tool and less of a distro so I hadn't spent much time searching for its logo. If i were to add it, I'd probably want it in the debian row, which is already quite full.

[–] keiko@fedia.io 1 points 29 minutes ago

lol sorry. idk how to spoiler uploads on mbin or if it's even possible.

[–] keiko@fedia.io 1 points 37 minutes ago

From wiki/Elementary_OS:

The operating system, the desktop environment (called Pantheon), and accompanying applications are developed and maintained by elementary, Inc.

From elementary.io:

The elementary brand belongs to elementary, Inc., the company that guides and supports development of elementary products.

[–] keiko@fedia.io 2 points 42 minutes ago

Lineage is not gegoogled? You have to install google services seperatly, when does it connect?

I had tried Waydroid (containerized LineageOS) on my linux phone, and the OpenSnitch firewall running in the host linux system flagged multiple google connections that Waydroid was attempting to make upon starting. Basic connectivity stuff, but googled nonetheless. There aren't any disclaimers I saw on their site about it, but I also didn't see anything about LineageOS advertising itself as degoogled in the first place. I view degoogled android as generally acceptable (though it's not for me), but degoogled android is unacceptable (in my view).

in my opinion, its too far removed to be corporate.

That's why I called it "corpo-ish" :p (cuz I have no idea how else to describe the corporate relationship at play). But yeah, the corporate row is acceptable to me. They get a passing grade. I still use PureOS on my Librem 5 and OSMC on my Vero and have my parents setup with /e/OS on their Fairphones. Valid options all around.

[–] keiko@fedia.io 2 points 52 minutes ago (2 children)

I'd figured that all of the various flavours of Fedora would be represented by the single Fedora logo in the Red Hat group. I do have Secureblue in a special "Secure Fedora" group in the Enhanced row, since it's more independent from Red Hat than Fedora itself.

As for Clonezilla, where would you place it? And where would one find an svg of the logo? I did leave out distros for which I could not find an svg logo (except for the few I was able to make myself).

My personal S-tier is Debian stable.

Valid ❤️

[–] keiko@fedia.io 9 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

In reading about it, I learned that the devs are apparently hateful and hostile to transgender people. When trying to see for myself, I found their forums gated, inaccessible to the public. So I placed Artix in the Dubious row to represent my unwillingness to recommend it.

[–] keiko@fedia.io 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

From the Ageless Linux site:

Ageless Linux is a Debian-based operating system distribution.

It didn't have a logo so I made one based on the styling of the site. There used to be a site for Ageless Arch not long ago, and so I had made a logo for it based on what I'd made for Ageless Linux. The site seems to be offline now but I kept the logo in the list anyway.

UBPorts was created by a corporation and is an ubuntu distro. Asahi Linux is a Red Hat (Fedora) distro. I'd wanted corporate influence to be represented.

LinageOS is not degoogled and will connect to google unless properly firewalled, which afaik cannot be done properly on-device. Waydroid is basically a containerized LineageOS which can at least be firewalled from the host os, but that's sub-optimal, which is why I have it one notch above LineageOS

Edit: Replicant is still technically maintained but has fallen very far behind.

[–] keiko@fedia.io 2 points 1 hour ago

This was my reasoning, yes.

[–] keiko@fedia.io 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

And if this works, here's the light-mode themed version of the os tier list:

operating system tier list in light-mode theme (full description in main post)

 

So I saw political compass memes a while ago and started making one, but then I started taking it too seriously and eventually turned it into a tier list. Idk if it makes sense to share it here, but idk where else to share such a thing. I also made a browser tier list, but idk where to share that either.

This whole thing is a png export of a pure svg image. For some of the logos, I had to make them either from scratch or by using gimp and inkscape to convert a png into an svg (imperfect but good enough).

Hopefully this is all formatted properly.

OS Tier ListS-Tier (reasonably secure operating system):

  • Qubes OS

Advanced (complicated setup and configuration):

  • Gentoo Linux
  • Guix System
  • Slackware Linux
  • Linux From Scratch (LFS)
  • Mobile NixOS
  • NixOS
  • Whonix
  • Predator-OS
  • Linux Kodachi
  • Gentoo FreeBSD

Enhanced (optimized security and minimalism):

  • Alpine Linux
  • Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre
  • Chimera Linux
  • EasyOS
  • postmarketOS
  • Tails
  • Kicksecure
  • NetHydra
  • ParrotOS
  • OpenBSD
  • GrapheneOS
  • Secureblue

Minimal (maximally mini resource use):

  • Tiny Core Linux
  • LibreCMC
  • Void Linux
  • Puppy Linux
  • AsteroidOS
  • Slitaz
  • 4MLinux
  • OpenWrt
  • DragonFly BSD
  • FreeBSD
  • NetBSD

Indie & BSD (independent distros and BSD systems):

  • PCLinuxOS
  • Dynebolic
  • KaOS
  • Mageia
  • LuneOS
  • Solus
  • AerynOS
  • GNOME OS
  • KDE Linux
  • GhostBSD

Arch (reasonably fresh and arch-based):

  • SystemRescue
  • Parabola GNU/Linux-libre
  • pearOS
  • EndeavourOS
  • Nemo Mobile
  • Arch Linux Arm
  • BlackArch Linux
  • Archhurd
  • Archcraft
  • Nyarch
  • Ageless Arch
  • Arch Linux
  • CachyOS
  • Garuda Linux

Debian (reasonably stable and debian-based):

  • Flora Linux-libre
  • Genuen
  • Devuan GNU+Linux
  • Loc-OS
  • antiX
  • MX Linux
  • Maemo Leste
  • Mobian
  • Emmabuntüs
  • Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE)
  • Ageless Linux
  • Debian
  • KNOPPIX
  • PikaOS Linux
  • RetroPie
  • LibreElec
  • Vanilla OS

Corpo-ish (corporation-created and/or dependent):

  • Replicant
  • Uruk GNU/Linux-libre
  • Trisquel GNU/Linux
  • AnduinOS
  • Linux Lite
  • UBports
  • Xubuntu
  • Lubuntu
  • Kubuntu
  • Linux Mint
  • KDE neon
  • Fedora
  • Asahi Linux
  • Bazzite
  • Nobara Linux
  • Rocky Linux
  • AlmaLinux
  • openSUSE

Corporate (corporation-owned and/or controlled):

  • /e/OS
  • Sailfish OS
  • PureOS
  • Manjaro Linux
  • Raspberry Pi OS
  • OSMC
  • Kali Linux
  • Zorin OS
  • Tuxedo OS
  • Pop!_OS
  • elementary OS
  • Ubuntu
  • Proxmox
  • SteamOS
  • CentOS Stream
  • Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL)
  • CloudLinux OS
  • SUSE Linux Enterprise
  • Unraid

Dubious (questionable and/or suspicious):

  • Waydroid
  • Artix Linux
  • Omarchy
  • OpenMandriva

Borderline (possibly dangerous and best to avoid):

  • LineageOS

MALWARE (actively dangerous and harmful to use):

  • android
  • chromeOS
  • Apple Operating Systems (macOS, iOS, etc.)
  • Windows
  • Red Star OS
[–] keiko@fedia.io 1 points 8 hours ago

Doesn't look that way to me, but I'm not here to argue about it. Idk what else to say, so I'll probably just leave it there and hope my original comment was worth sharing in the first place.

[–] keiko@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I hadn't considered that, but it's possible. The vehicle is parked with the window open while the person in the driver's seat is taking pics of the child hiding from the large animal whose head is entirely inside the vehicle. So yeah, I can see how the driver could have also intentionally lured the animal to approach in the first place. But regardless, they seem to be intentionally abusing that child. Otherwise, why leave the car parked with the window open as a large animal approaches, and why take pics of the child instead of helping them? Like, if it somehow happened so quickly that they couldn't have prevented it, why start taking pics instead of pushing the animal back out? Why not drive away?

[–] keiko@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

I was sharing the mechanism for copying between vms within Qubes OS, which is a bit different from traditional operating systems. First you copy to the clipboard of the current qube, then copy to the shared clipboard, then paste from the shared clipboard into the clipboard of the destination qube, and finally paste within that destination qube.

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