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...Tibet is a province in China and is openly talked about kiddo. Tibet was, for a period of about 40 years, under a brutal monarchy that had institutionalized child sex slavery. The Dalai Lama is a child sex advocate.

Tibet then did a civil war around the time of China's revolution, where the main party of the rebellion which I don't care to look up the name of because Tibetan is mostly nonsense words to me, requested help from the newly freed China. China obliged, with the caveat of Tibet returning to China instead of continuing on as an independent country. Which was greatly preferred during war time at least because, you know, they were spending all their military resources fighting the UK and US backed Tibetan child sex slave government.

After the war, like all provinces Tibet was poor, poorly integrated with the rest of China, and had little access to outside resources... until about the 1990s. Like the rest of China. Now Tibetan culture and language is mandatory for schools in Tibet (like Uyghur in Xinjiang and Mongolian in Inner Mongolia, also there's that weird muslim group in inner mongolia that actually has their own culture and language requirements in schools that I forget. And I mean weird as in, why did they become muslim that far north east, not that they're weird for being Muslim.) and Tibet, like Xinjiang, is seeing a golden age of modernization and resources being poured into it.

Because China released after the East Tukistan terror attacks from Turkey and the US that you can't have home grown terrorism or dissidence if you just, give people the resources they need to live well and thrive.

...You spread a conspiracy theory not even supported by mainstream US outlets and people reacted badly?!

Jack Ma was not 'disappeared.' He was, in fact, brought up on charges that were later dismissed due to his cooperation. This was public news. Because Jack Ma attempted to bribe members of the CPC in order to gain political support for his incredibly unpopular and stupid idea of lessening safety regulations to bring Chinese markets closer to the 'freedom' of the US market.

His political movement failed, his bribery attempts were exposed, and unfortunately, he was not punished for them beyond having to issue an apology. Honestly it's a shame China didn't actually punish him like your conspiracy theory suggests, given the amount of damage he attempted to do to the Chinese economy and integrity of the People's congress.

If he did nothing then he'd be better.

Actively committing genocide is still actively committing genocide. Using all of Trump's built concentration camps is still just as bad as being the one building them.

He was more secretive and more discreet than Trump. That is how he was better. But Trump has done not a single thing the last 3 presidents have not also done.

It was 'watered down' because Obama is a Reagan-era conservative that fully believes and has wrote about supporting neoliberal economics (aka trickle down) and was using naive 'progressive' liberals to get elected and take the steam out of popular protest and progressive movements that did threaten the oligarchy. Just a reminder the same exact companies sat in his cabinet that sit in Bush's and Trump's.

There was never any 'Hope,' there was never any 'Yes we can,' there was only 'Please God stop protesting and don't ever realize that with literally 2% of the country freshly homeless due to the 2008 crisis that Obama's future cabinet members directly explicitly caused knowing it would cause a massive economic crash that there are more than enough people to actively revolt against the US government and oligarchy that have absolutely nothing else left to lose.'

There's a reason Biden, one of the most right-wing politicians in the History of the United States, tapped Obama and encouraged him to run for the presidency despite having practically no political, military, or economic experience outside being a mayor and senator for a couple of years.

Her husband's been outed as a pedophile, her legacy boils down to being a whiny sore loser who ran hard right from even Obama's politics and failed, and she personally has ensured no one with the last name clinton will ever hold a political office ever again in the country.

As far as modern consequences for rich people in the US, that's really the best case scenario. She's not poor enough to get Luigi'd, and she's not dark enough to get arrested.

Realistically the same fate is the best case scenario we have for what will happen to Trump, who will never see a jail cell, and the rest of his billionaire friends.

The solution to being in an plutocratic oligarchy turning into a fascist oligarchy is not to support the oligarch that super duper promises not to do bad things to you, just everyone else in the world.

Their admin team advocated for the genocide of the Palestinian, Syrian, and Lebanese peoples while advocating for a total global ban on muslim migration and integration into 'developed' societies?

Most human rights agencies were started by "ex" US intelligence members. That's a true fact btw, really weird fact, but true. That aside no human rights have ever been won nor retained without violence against those withhold and oppressing those rights.

Ever.

While we can always acknowledge all enforcement of laws is violence, some violence is not effective enough to ensure the safety of the people. Certainly not all or even most cases, but in a few cases there is no rehabilitation. There is no recovery. There is no chance the individual ever actually sees what they did as wrong.

And that's unfortunate. And I would sincerely love to see the utopia in which you dream of, but there would need to be incredible amounts of violence to ever get there, and I don't think you or other anti-capital punishment advocates have that in you.

Not really, no. While an ideal utopia might successfully eliminate psychopathy and all related disorders falling under that umbrella, or at the very least totally prevent its affects on society, we are not in that ideal utopia and likely won't reach there as we don't know what genetics precisely cause it (mainly because rich people do not contribute DNA for research.)

Until we can either safeguard society from its affects or eliminate that particular defect from humanity, whichever is possible, we cannot eliminate capital punishment. There will always be another day, and normal humans are quick to forget and forgive, not to mention just be miseducated on the subject. Just see the deification of figures like Henry Ford, Ted Bundy, or Henry Kissinger for examples. While all but the last had their reputation resurrected long after their death, Kissinger shows this reputation can be changed or hidden from the masses in real time during their lifetime.

Life imprisonment then becomes a Sword of Damocles instead of a solution for these people that objectively, by all current scientific research, cannot physically change what they are or how they think and act. Eventually that Sword will fall, the public will forget, forgive, or be misled about their crimes, and they and their fans and enablers will be free to do their crimes again.

I agree capital punishment is not ideal, no state should have that power, but then again there shouldn't be states, period; but as there are and we have to live until there's not... we must have a solution for those that harm masses of workers.

That solution is their crimes being laid bare, a public representative lawyer having every chance to defend them fairly, and a jury panel of either judges or the public deciding their fate; allowing the state to execute the will of the people before the people take matters into their own hands — which is another point to be made; These people will die if they continue their crimes. The people will enact justice with or without the state, and for all the reasons above imprisonment is not seen as justice to those wronged badly enough.

It is much better to have a system handling this than relying on heroes like Luigi Mangione, may his innocence be held up in court, to handle what needs to be handled.

I'm not okay with human rights violations, which is why I support jury trial enabled capital punishment for those committing human rights abuses, like every CEO China has executed.

Bro you are on the right-wing lemmy instance. Like the most right-wing instance in lemmy's history.

Everyone is to the left of you.

Murder is when crimes against humanity are prosecuted. You're so smart.

As someone currently living there, I don't believe you.