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If we can't be bothered to vote in the primaries, wjy would anyone believe us that a progressive candidate would somehow lure millions more to vote?

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We keep being told that we're not voting in the primaries.

I don't quite believe it. I'm starting to think the primaries are rigged. And this is their excuse -- they get to smugly tell us we're just not showing up to primaries in enough numbers to make a difference. Conveniently puts the blame on us, trying to make us blame ourselves.

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The last 2 primaries were a disgrace. You can find a bunch of vocal progressives who didn't vote or voted 3rd part, but the bigger problem has been the establishment completely ignoring trying to get democrats to get off the couch and vote and instead try to court sycophantic far right voters with weird anti-trans rhetoric or pushing class warfare under the guise of deregulation and "small government".

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 16 points 3 days ago

Two?! This goes back to Kucinich not getting airtime when he would've been a viable opponent against Clinton!

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

We keep being told that we’re not voting in the primaries.

I don’t quite believe it. I’m starting to think the primaries are rigged. And this is their excuse – they get to smugly tell us we’re just not showing up to primaries in enough numbers to make a difference. Conveniently puts the blame on us, trying to make us blame ourselves.

Is all the polling rigged too, from every major pollster, including notably progressive-leaning ones?

The general electorate, including even the narrower subset of the Dem electorate, is just not as progressive as most of us. Even Mamdani barely managed a majority in NYC, which is hardly as conservative as, say, suburbs in Pennsylvania.

[–] berg@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] PugJesus@piefed.social -5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] berg@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

10+ years at minimum, is not “very recent

Are you fucking kidding me? Did you not read the fucking source linked?

To put the enormity of this change in perspective, consider that 7 years ago, polls showed that when people were told Medicare For All might eliminate private insurance, topline support for the idea typically dropped. Surveys showed anywhere from 37 percent to just 13 percent of Americans said they supported Medicare For All if it involved eliminating private insurance. So these new numbers are a shift of anywhere from 26 to 50 points on that key question in just 7 years.

In February [2016], a Harvard University survey discovered that a majority of 18-to-29-year-olds, did not support capitalism, and preferred socialism instead.

Oh, wow, the demographic least likely to vote. Great. Clearly this will swing the vote.

[–] berg@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Did you not read the fucking source linked?

Ironic.

If you had read the source I linked, you would see that it contradicts your point.