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    [–] mech@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Arch only breaks if you don't read the wiki.
    Update the repo's gpg keys, read the Arch news, do what manual steps they mention and you can update it after a year and it won't break.

    [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Arch only breaks if you don't read the wiki.

    Finally found the ultimate reason why I'm not gonna use Arch.

    [–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 14 hours ago

    Best stay away from Gentoo, Exherbo, Bedrock, NixOS and GuixSD too then.

    [–] Tanoh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

    To be fair, the arch wiki is very good. I use it quite often despite not using arch. Quite a few things are valid on other distros, or you can get hints on how to fix it, like where to start looking.

    [–] Klajan@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

    My Arch install yesterday:

    That's a nice Kernel you have there, it would be a shame if something happened to it.

    It somehow deleted the old kernel image from the boot partition but failed to write the new one (and I didn't notice before rebooting).

    I needed to rebuild the kernel via chroot from a live USB.

    [–] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    with all due respect to the arch project and all, but I don't wanna do all that just to update my PC

    [–] mech@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    It's not more hassle than updating other distros after one year, cause they'll throw a whole new major version at you. Here's Debian's upgrade instructions for a comparison:
    https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/release-notes/upgrading.en.html

    What I wrote fits in a 6 line bash script, and there are much more sophisticated ready-made updaters available, too.

    [–] Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Joke's on you, Pop hasn't had a major update in years!

    [–] rapchee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

    Well I haven't updated yet, so still true for me :3

    [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Except, if any random program that you want to install requires a new version of a low-level library, you're gonna have to do full system update today and not when upgrading the major version of the distro.

    [–] Johanno@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

    This is why I use Nixos.

    It can update single apps independently.

    In theory you could update single kernel modules, but that obviously makes the shit unstable.

    [–] mech@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    This is all entirely theoretical. In practice, yes, it's easier if you don't go too long between updates on Arch.
    But "not to long" means once a month, not every day. And you should really not go more than a month between updates on any distro.

    [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    This is all entirely theoretical.

    If you mean the system being screwed over by a dependency on a newer lib version, I've had that exact scenario triggered multiple times in Debian testing. (And in other distros too, really.)

    FancyApp depends on libbutt >= 1.1. You have 1.0 installed.

    libbutt 1.1 was compiled against glibc 2.43 and lists it as a dependency. You have 2.42.

    Upgrading glibc triggers reinstalling half of the system, including low-level components, which in turn pull in updates of other low-level components that don't themselves depend on glibc. Including the kernel.

    But at least, with Ubuntu or whatever, this shouldn't change the general workings of the system that would require manual adjustments from me.