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[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No, the point is to agitate you against an establishment that wants to prevent you from having a better choice.

Liberals who are passionately defending lesser evil electoralism before primaries have even started are either idiots in denial or moderates who don't want to talk about why their party is nearly as unpopular as Trump.

[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I think most people are more willing to be apathetic than energized if they accept that their choices amount to little to no change.

[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Probably, but it's also the truth. Enthusiasm is worthless if it's directed in the wrong direction.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most people can see that their choices result in little to no change without anyone having to point to it, and will sit out elections regardless.

Democrats refusing to address that apathy is the problem, not people making it known.

[–] MerryJaneDoe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If both parties are equally "bad", why would this be a problem for just Democrats?

The more obvious answer is that the two "sides" are working class vs. super-wealthy. The wealthy keep control by appealing to voters from every background.

IMHO, the way to solve this issue is to vote for candidates who are willing to say "Tax the rich". (Or "Tax the Epstein class", I really like that motto!)

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Because reactionary movements offer an alternative explanation to systemic failures that are easier than challenging systemic forces that create them

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 2 days ago

Nihilism is a problem and the step before that is Cynicism. We can't really know the person but we can know their fruits: are they spending their energy (outside of voting and shit posting) to enact positive change? If the answer is yes, no matter how futile, then they are not the problem

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Before primaries, yeah, idealism is the goal. After primaries, you vote blue no matter who to prevent actual fascists (Republicans) from gaining power.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

No amount of circling the wagons after the primaries will make an unpopular candidate palatable to an apathetic voting base.

The point of agitating now is to prevent an establishment candidate from taking the nomination to begin with or to force the establishment to embrace populist positions and control the campaign narrative.