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I’m not saying we shouldn’t end FPTP but this has become a thought ending cliche.
England is mostly FPTP they have ditched both Labour and the Conservatives in the last few years according to the polls. Canada has FPTP and they have 3 viable parties.
The math is not preventing a third party. This mindset is.
Yep. The self fulfilling defeatism prophecy. And *poof!*, the truth of it vanishes once it stops getting uttered and believed.
The best comparison is probably the “Biden is the most electable candidate” narrative from the 2020 primary.
Can you tell me the last time NDP won a federal election in Canada?
Was it around the time when they passed their nationalized healthcare service? The healthcare service that wouldn’t be a thing without the NDP. The kind of healthcare we still don’t have here in the US. The kind of healthcare that polls at like 70% in the US.
Reminds of the Princeton study...
I'm not arguing that the NDP didn't do anything for Canada I'm a staunch supporter of them, but Canada has been barreling closer and closer to a two-party system and to cover your eyes and say it doesn't exist because it's inconvenient is insincere at best
Things can go either way. Canada can be moving away from the NDP; England is moving away from their 2 entrenched party. To cover your eyes and say FPTP makes things we literally have historical examples of impossible because it’s inconvenient is simply ignoring reality.
Yes FPTP does make it harder and we should end FPTP, but it is possible. Especially when both of the 2 major parties are refusing to address massively consequential issues such as healthcare and the military industrial complex.
Agreed, it's intensely frustrating that we've found ourselves caught in a very American "lesser of two evils" system where the major parties don't give a fuck about the average person. We have a lot of positive change happening at the provincial level. However, a handful of exceptions in the face of an avalanche of examples to the contrary. That said I don't want to bully someone for hoping, if you think it doesn't matter, go for it.