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[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

"Look how bad the other side is"

Doesn't work when your side just fell asleep at the wheel and let the opposition take control. And that's the charitable take. Your side decided it was more important to fund a genocide than combat all the scary things in the first list.

[–] legion02@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If you look around at what's happening right now you'll see this was a false choice. Trump was always going to give Bibi whatever he wanted.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Taking a step back and having the revelation that your electoralism means definitive genocide no matter who's in power should not be a reason to dig in and defend your electoralism. It should be reason to tear everything down.

Otherwise, youre taking the stance that Palestinians have a duty to allow themselves genocided to buy yourself time for more political waffling.

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So did Biden and Harris wasn't going to be any different. Biden even went around Congress to make damn sure Bibi got exactly what he wanted and then some.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The progressive side of our politics still lives in the dem party and we have a better chance of getting our ideas out there in that party. Either by election like Mamdani or by appointment like Lina Khan.

To be clear I don't think Lina Khan was a lefty. Still her tenure in the FCC was rather pro consumer and pushing back on big corporations. That would not happen at all in any rep admin.

[–] DaGreenGobbo@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago

It's more about power than ideas. The problem with the establishment Dems is not that they have the wrong ideas but that they have been purchased by the oligarchs who get to win whether they get a D or an R.

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What does this have to do with Biden giving Bibi exactly what he wanted?

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The thread is about both-sides-sim. I pointed out a case in how its still helpful to vote as left as possible.

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah and left is not letting Bibi get a single thing, even if that means losing Israel as an ally and supporting a party that's not a major one.

Weird how this is the conclusion you came to instead of figuring out that the "your side" you're talking about isn't our side and hasn't been for a long time.

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

At least we're not in the other car coming at us straight on.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

If you're American, people like you are the reason Trump is president. He was always going to genocide Palestine, and if you're saying so was Harris, then they're equal on that and you should elect Harris. Then AFTER she's in office you can pressure and throw mud and do everything possible to get the US to stop.