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[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not on the majority of platforms nowadays. AI Moderation and content-aware automated filters before that ensure that the nasty people that say things like rape or shit or cum or Scunthorpe get censored, shadow banned, banned, then HWID/IP range banned in that order, in order to ensure the safety of everyone online.

Pity they can't do anything about the CSAM, grooming, or nazis though.

[–] lifeinlarkhall@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Lol I'm here because reddit banned me because I mentioned a murder-suicide case that was another commenter was trying to recall. Apparently I "threatened violence" 🤷‍♀️ is lemmy as as easily triggered? 🤔

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Just certain instances. There is no 'one' lemmy.' which is the entire point of federated services (despite what .world admins think).

Most Lemmy instances are fine for most discussions of most things. .World is by far the most restrictive and most like reddit and other zionist-owned and ran services. Because it is owned and run by zionists. See !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com for wide ranging examples and reasons why .world is insane.

In general this is the only reason you need to pay attention to the instance you're on. If you, as a .world user, frequently start posting anti-zionist rhetoric like 'Maybe we shouldn't kill children or use literal fucking rape-trained dogs on prisoners' you might find yourself banned or shadow banned pretty quickly.

Just like if you're too right-wing to understand why capitalism is bad, and you repeat neoliberal propaganda against socialism as a .ml user, you'd be banned.

The only really universal rules for commonly federated lemmy instances is no CSAM (ignore ani.social) and don't send death threats/hate speech (unless you're a .world admin and the target is palestinians, I cannot stress enough how much the entire lemmy.world admin team hates brown people native to the land of Palestine that are currently being genocided by the terrorist settler state of Israel and it's dog the United States.)

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But they are saying it. Everyone knows what's being said. It's understood what's being meant.

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

However that's not the point. The point is Companies, when brought into say, the Pennsylvania supreme court on Obscenity charges, can say they do everything technically possible to filter out these words, so we are not liable for whatever law -- this usually makes prosecutors fail at trial, or reconsider bringing charges.

If you let anyone say the no no words, and someone sends a rape threat to Nancy Pelosi on your platform you could be liable for harassment, hosting obscenity (real charge in multiple US states), and other such financial annoyances.

So it is cheaper to just have a set of policies and procedures in place, even if it objectively makes your platform worse, even if it objectively is not effective, simply because it looks better in court and gets you out of more fines. See: The New Zealand law spurred on by the Christchurch shooter, which essentially requires every website to censor violent images and manifestos or pay some ridiculous $5mil NZD fine a DAY that it is kept up after being reported. If they can AI things breaking that law away, even if it harms other users, they're going to do so.

Companies, like all parasites, will actively shy away from poisonous food sources and pick other directions to go in.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is a veiled threat not a threat that would hold up in (American ) court ?

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is but it takes the blame off of the platform entirely.

To word it a different way - if I made a service where no matter what you wanted to say I would write down your words, read them, and run through town shouting them until I found the person it was directed to and then shout it at them... I would be liable for the words being said as much as the person paying me to say it.

If, however, I have a strict policy where I will only do the above after I strictly review and moderate your words, and you managed to sneak in a tongue twister that says something dirty that I didn't realize until after I shouted it... I am no longer liable. I did everything a reasonable person could expect, you are the only one liable.

When people sue in the US (and when companies really fuck up) people sue the person liable and all possible parties that could be included. The parties then shift blame around pretrial and try to prove they are not liable by xyz to get dismissed off the case. If this fails then each party sued essentially has a trial for their specific liability, which needs to be separately proved in court; and if it makes it that far, in front of a jury (or panel of judges, or a single judge, depending on which state and what kind of action).