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[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 28 points 5 days ago (7 children)

When are Americans actually going to use their 2A rights for something other than performative bullshit?

Seriously, this is the kind of shit the law was created to stop.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (2 children)

lol it's easy to sit from outside and go "do something" when in reality you would never lift a finger in violence against your government because unless you have nothing left to lose, it's not a winning bet

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Have you seen how the French reacted to the raising of retirement age? They literally threw a bathtub through their executives home window. Americans should be dragging politicians through the streets by their entrails with all the shit that's been happening but they willingly just keep letting it happen with no actual recourse.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I agree, they should be taking more direct action to confront their leaders. America is nothing compared to France in terms of protests. They have grills that are built to slide onto the metro tram rails so they can feed the protestors as they move down the street, since they do it so much.

I'm just saying the OP brought up 2A, and that's a pretty final solution that there's no coming back from if you go that route. Protest is one thing, assassination with firearms is a completely different thing.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Violence isn't the answer, until it's the only answer left"

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Luckily I think America still has many disruptive, non-assassination-based responses left. We're quickly careening towards that point, but I think we're still decently far away from all out violence like that. To be honest I don't think it'll ever get to that point in the MAGA time period. I really really hope I'm right.

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm not directing people to go do something.

I'm openly wondering why, in a country with a law that was designed to literally protect the people from tyranny (which I think cancelling elections counts) nobody is doing anything.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 days ago

Because the people who worship guns the most support the tyrants.

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The hierarchy of needs is being met sufficiently that going against the system providing them is scary, especially when you’re likely to die doing it.

Same reason the bear runs when the cat chases it. Not worth the fight.

I’m not saying this is how I believe, just this is what I believe the general reason is.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Exactly, everyone is still too comfortable to take such drastic action. That's fortunate because it means society hasn't broken down to the point of people starving and what not (which I don't think it'll ever get to that point in the near term). But it's unfortunate that everyone is still too comfortable to take action.

Actually, millions of people are taking action in protests, petitions, local referendums, etc. but not many people want to take the most drastic action as they have too much to lose (e.g. their life). I want the regime to fall and face real justice without violence, but the regime is pushing everyone to get violence so they can crack down even harder against any dissent. We're speedrunning to Putin's playbook.

[–] Brummbaer@pawb.social 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The whole 2A bullshit was always meant to be used against minorities.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Shhhh....we dont say that out loud

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's hard. I'm a minority living quite far away with multiple guns, and to get to DC with them and close enough to leverage them would be basically impossible.

I have them for any impending civil war against neighbors or otherwise, because I feel like that's coming.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

impending civil war against neighbors or otherwise

We need to be making coalitions with our neighbors and otherwise. We stand no chance if we cannot stand together.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I agree.

But all my neighbors voted for and strongly support Trump.

[–] ProdigiousInsanity@lemmus.org 2 points 4 days ago

Same, my family is surrounded by Red and Qanonists.

[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 days ago

I disagree that this was the original purpose, but we heard the argument often enough from defenders of the 2A... and don't hear anything now.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Never, it was always some fallacy to sell the "land of the free, home of the brave" marketing campaign... Americans are entirely meek

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This is the text:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The intent is pretty clear. It's been muddled by idiots through history, but it's obviously to have militias armed, trained, and ready for when an enemy attacks. At the time, most nations relied on militias for their military. Professional standing armies were reserved for the wealthiest nations, and even they usually supplemented them with militias. The USA was a new nation of farmers. It did not have the budget to have a professional military. They wrote the 2nd amendment clearly for this purpose.

This isn't to say people shouldn't do what the charlatans have said it's for. Obviously they should if/when it's needed (not making a claim about now, that's for the reader to decide).

I also support gun rights, though I think they should be more regulated and require training and safe storage. The 9th amendment protects this.