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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

...... Just in general..?

I'm not here to change your mind, but I'm curious to know more

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

ehh, i'm particularly against any and all kinds of makeup and earrings.

the reason isn't even so much with how it looks, but for different reasons.

young women are told that they aren't beautiful when they don't wear makeup. then the makeup store sells them makeup. the young women go out, and if they make positive experiences, they subconsciously attribute it to the makeup. "well i did my makeup properly, of course i'm making positive experiences"

instead, if there was no makeup at all, they would still make positive experiences, but attribute it to themselves / other people around them, instead of to the glorious company that sold you the product that makes you worthy of love and attention.

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There's no subconsciously attributing it to the makeup. It's conscious. People treat me better when I work to fit society's accepted beauty norms.

And not like, people smile more. I mean when I'm done up, businesses give me free stuff. I am not charged entry fees. And also individuals are kinder and more attentive. When I go out in comfy clothes with no makeup, no one is rude to me, but no one is saying at the cash register, "that's so small, you can just have it. "

Pretty privilege/ the halo effect is a real, documented thing.

I think we agree that the only way to combat it is to get rid of makeup completely. Just pointing out it's not subconscious and saying it's a completely real thing, definitely not in people's heads.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fuckin hell, seriously? You just get things given to you?

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, and I'm not super hot, just basically regular looking, but much better looking with hair/ makeup/ outfit. It's usually stuff like dessert but I've been gifted bottles of wine (to take, not like offered complimentary at dinner). Most recently I got to the register with a book and they were like that's so little, you can just have it. Not at a big corporation where the cashier just doesn't care, at a privately owned place.

This kind of thing never happens when I'm not done up, so I feel like it's directly related.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

just ask young black guys how they are treated when they wear a suit, vs wearing a hoodie.

hell, i'm good-looking white guy, and I notice a massive difference in how people react to me when i'm wearing my dog-walking at 7am outfit, vs my 'going to the office today' clothes. which one do you think gets me the suspicion/scared/concerned looks?

it's also just totally bizarro to me people think I should dress up to walk my fucking dog when it's not even full daylight yet.

Granted, there's a difference between not being beautiful and being more beautiful with makeup. While self worth shouldn't be inherently tied to appearance, there's no denying well applied makeup looks great.