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[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A comment I made elsewhere about people bringing up Epstein:

Just something to think about here - republicans all seem pretty gung-ho on the fascism, and they have control of everything right now. Do you think pointing it out will change republican minds? Those in office and those who are the voters backing them up.

Personally, I don't see that happening. You'll get some halfhearted dissent here and there, but I think thats mostly cover.

So, what would cause a major split or shift? I think solid confirmation of Trump making use of Epstein's 'services' could do that. Maybe it won't, I can't predict the future (obviously). It seems much more likely than pointing out how rights are being stripped away (again and again), because they haven't cared about our rights yet.

That doesn't mean I think we should ignore what's happening, just that I think there is substantial value in making sure the Epstein files don't just disappear. If there wasn't, I don't think they would be trying so hard to deflect/ignore/cover up anything related to it.

There are some people who tall about the economy, but let's be honest there too - the wealthy will use a bad economy to buy things up, meanwhile the soybean farmers praying (literally) to Trump think he has some grand plan and this hurt is temporary.

Its the same with taking away peoples rights to be who they are, or to even speak about who they are - they agree with it because its hurting the people they want it to. They won't see the hypocrisy.

If trump supporters can see Trump as a child abuser and liar, then maybe they'll see he was lying about other things too. Maybe they'll recognize that the people who were chest thumping about Epstein files that suddenly went quiet - the ones that fill up their Facebook feed and their alt right TV network - are also liars and manipulators.

Guaranteed? No. But a realistic approach thats gained traction.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm still very skeptical about the approach because Trump's friendship with Epstein has been well known, while conservatives advocating child marriages never seemed to dissuade the base much in the past. However, I'm not asking people to stop talking about, I'm asking that it not be brought up when serious shit is going down. It's so fucked up.

The only thing about it now is how hard he is falling against releasing anything - which makes it seem like there is enough to really cause problems.

And I get it on some posts, its pretty excessive to bring up in some situations.