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Once again, socialism is the public ownership of the means of production. Universal healthcare, subsidized healthcare, government-assisted healthcare, whatever name you want to give it, has nothing to do with whether a government is socialist. Public healthcare can be offered by virtually any type of government.
Like many people on this platform, you're confusing the words social and socialist. They are not the same thing. As defined above, a social democrat is not a socialist. Government programs that provide assistance to the population are not inherently socialist programs; they are welfare programs.
You are not advocating for public ownership of the means of production. You are advocating for welfare programs that benefit the population under a democratic government. I genuinely do not understand why so many people on this platform have such a difficult time grasping this distinction.
So I will simply leave you with the below quote.
Public healthcare cannot be offered by a fully capitalist government. I would argue welfare itself could be deemed socialist. Production also benefits the population btw.
Also, jesus christ man. what is that quote?
Most developed and developing countries on Earth have public healthcare systems and are still fully capitalist. Nearly all European countries are examples of this. Even the United States has forms of public healthcare. People often forget that America already provides government-funded healthcare through programs such as Medicare and Medicaid; one simply has to qualify, and tens of millions of Americans do.
Once again, please listen to what I'm saying: welfare programs are not socialism. The words "social" and "socialism" have two entirely different meanings. A country can be capitalist, communist, a dictatorship, or a monarchy and still offer social programs, more accurately described as welfare programs. The existence of those programs does not determine the underlying economic system.
The quote is from Billy Madison, which kind of gives you away. You're probably too young to even be having this discussion, let alone offering an opinion on the matter.
No country on Earth is fully capitalist. Also, I don't think a country can be communist. Kinda goes against the definition.
Dawg, "Billy Madison" is 30 years old. You gotta be atleast twice the voting age to have watched it when it released.