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Yeah. The right isn't arguing anymore either and I think it's why the liberals are so quick to punch left. Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson falloff being the most obvious examples. They don't care anymore and the liberals are trying to find someone to "debate". The right has largely "won". The "marketplace of ideas" does not result in the most just and good ideas winning. They are having a hard time handling this.
So they're lost. They don't know what to do but discuss ideas and think that that is the only thing that leads to change.
It's a perfect example of why you need to understand dialectical materialism. If all you have is ideas you'll be holding onto those ideas and "winning" your way all the way to the gas chambers. But they continue to criticize any material effort to resist fascist that threatens the existing systems they think will somehow shift back. They will not shift back again. "The marketplace of ideas" is dead and it was never a means of progress in the first place.