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[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You could be both. He isn't, but it isn't impossible.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Letting children starve is generally thought of as a dick move when you have more than enough money to just pay to make that not happen.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Well, yeah. Trillionaires are definitely bad people. That isn't the question, though. The question is whether they can be visionaries at the same time. I submit that they can.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 6 points 2 weeks ago

You're getting hung up on the wrong thing here.

In this context, a visionary is someone that can help lead humanity to a better way of life. Many of Musk's fans actually think this about him, that either his electric cars, his "ai", his "free speech platform", or his space program will somehow make the world a better place. All while ignoring his bigotry, his exploitation of humans and the environment, his political escapades which has resulted in countless deaths, and his collusion with Epstein. It is all a scam.

The richest person in the world also happens to be one of the worst.

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

CyberTruck, Grok, Xitter, Teslabots. Anything Elon has a personal hand in goes to shit. He has the eye for investing and marketing vaporware but visionary engineer is overdone tony stark pr bullshit.

Ask yourself this, how quickly would investor sentiment in his companies turn if he died tomorrow?

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I specifically said that Elon Musk is not a visionary. He very clearly isn't. He's a moron who's been failing upward since he was born with emeralds in his pockets.

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Apologies I hadn’t picked that up on the first read through of your reply.

[–] ServantOfRa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

The only vaguely visionary bit about him is his dedication to building The Torment Nexus.