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The former president worried that a new deal with Iran will be far worse than the one that was in place until 2018

Barack Obama is deeply skeptical that the United States and Iran will be able to work out a deal better than the one that was in place before President Donald Trump‘s first term.

The Obama administration reached a deal with Iran in 2015. That deal saw Iran agreeing to limit its nuclear program, in exchange for an easing of sanctions put in place by the United States and the UN. President Donald Trump withdrew from the deal in 2018.

Obama discussed the withdrawal and subsequent war with Iran in an interview with ABC‘s Robin Roberts on Sunday.

“It is doubtful that any agreement that arises is going to be significantly different or a significant improvement from the deal that we had in the first place,” he said.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's extremely relevant. This is just another attempt to whitewash United States war crimes. A war criminal denouncing a war criminal when war crimes are the whole foreign policy of a nation means the whole foreign policy of a terrorist state should be viewed as a whole, in a continuum.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Obama didn't denounce a war crime. He essentially said bombing Iran is strategically a losing strategy. Again, morals have nothing to do with it.

Here, I'll agree with you. Obama was horrible. His choices resulted in innocent deaths. There you go, no whitewashing. In this article he is saying Trump is dumb because his strategy to bomb Iran hasn't and won't work. Further, he says that any deal that comes now likely will be worse than the one established in 2015. That has fuckall to do with the morality of killing innocent people.

So yea, Obama's atrocities are completely irrelevant to this article and this conversation. Just because you get a hardon for shitting on him doesn't mean your statements on that letter a relevant to this conversation.

You know who else was bad? Saddam Hussein. Care to pointlessly point out his war crimes too? It would make just as much sense here as talking about Obama's.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah. But the United States didn't gaf until they wanted to stop him from converting UN food-for-oil Account from petrodollars to petroeuros. In fact, we sold him WMD. And stopped caring about the Kurds as soon as they weren't immediately useful, again.

Like I'm down for a black or woman president. I'd love to see some of my prime representing -- an honest country.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's the relevance to all of that had Obama telling Trump it's a dumb ineffective strategy to bomb Iran?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Obama is a disingenuous hypocrite.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh. So nothing.

Either your ability to reason is non existent, or your just the most boring troll on the Internet. Truly this is the most tiring conversation I've had for a long time. My dogs have a better grasp on reality and context than you. They can actually stay focused on a single thing without going stray on random tangents.

This will be a big goodbye from me. Life's to short to run into and engage with people like yourself.

Godspeed.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth -3 points 1 week ago

Yeah your attention span is so focused, you let our government gaslight you with meaningless bullshit and insisting on fragmentation of history rather than viewing it as a whole. Either way, I'm glad you won't be whitewashing our history anymore.