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Uhm... on top of not having my phone as my single payment method... where should I carry my id and driver's license and medical card if not in the wallet? Should I carry them loose in the pocket? Or in my bag? Why? That's so unconvenient and in the long term ends up damaging them.
I used to have a separate wallet, but i switched to this magnetic billfold thing that attaches to the back of my phone. It has enough room for an ID, credit card, debit card, and ond of those tile locators shaped like a credit card. Unfortunately these are horrible for user privacy, but it helps me find it if I lose it. In a pinch, it can also hold a small fold of cash.
I almost never need the other things my old wallet held: insurance card, cash, other credit cards or gift cards...? What else did I even carry? I still have my old wallet at home and a small box I use to keep other ID cards, gift cards, etc.
The magnetic thing also doubles for a hands-free phone stand if I want to set the phone down on a surface and watch tv while I'm eating lunch or something.
If you lose your phone, you lose everything tho.
Not necessarily. I can detach the phone wallet and leave it at home if i want.
Also why would i lose my phone?
If i misplace it at home, i can use find my to ring it. Can't do that with a wallet.
If you leave the wallet at home and lose the phone or it fails, then you're still with no documents or cards. Just because it never happened to you doesn't mean it can't happen. I got in a car crash when I was returning home from my job and the phone got destroyed. I was able to be identified and my family located because I was carrying my wallet with ID, national security card and driver's license. It's an extreme case, but it can happen. It could also fall in a bad way and get damaged... I've seen too many phones (fortunately not mine) decide to fail their user in the worst moment to trust them exclusively.
This is why you always have to carry physical ID when you're driving.
Yes it has happened to me before. Just less often than losing my wallet when i used to have one that didn't attach to the phone.
Yes. But you said that you can leave your wallet at home, hence leaving all your documents on it and carrying just your phone. You can get involved in a car crash without driving by being a passanger or simply someone walking on the street or biking.
You can also be hit by a meteorite.
But it’s unlikely, just as it is unlikely for most people to need physical cards.
Where do you live that you think you have the same odds of getting hit by a meteorite than of getting hit by a car while crossing the street?
Again, if your phone fails, how do you pay? How do you get identified? Without physical cards?
I have no need to be identified usually. And phones don’t tend to suddenly fail.
They don't, until they do. Or until you drop them and fall in a bad way and break, or until you forget them somewhere or lose them. I mean, I don't really care, you do you; but you seem really hostile to the idea of carrying a small wallet with your cards while trusting everything to an electronic device that might fail for no apparent reason.
I already got once in a situation where my phone died and having my cards with me made the whole ordeal way easier than if they had to figure out who I were without any kind of id. I really hope you don't ever get in one.
I barely keep my phone on me, period. I hate the thing.
What is your secret? The doom rectangle cannot be evaded…
I just hate being bothered. Thats pretty much my entire secret. When I first got a smartphone I cracked the screen chucking it in the next room because the damn thing wouldnt stop buzzing.
I have a job that prohibits me from having a phone during working hours. It broke me of my dependency and now ive notice people getting irritated if i dont respond in minutes. Some days, they'll just have to wait til 5 until I can check it again.
But it's also made me so much less attached. I regularly dont have it on me
It's my companion for the restroom. If you text me any other time, it's going to be at least 5 minutes before I notice.
So, Gen z just like doesn't carry those or will have maybe one at a time if they have to just hanging loose. Yeah, it's weird.
Gen z here, I do use a wallet but many people use these sticky wallets that you slap on the back of your phone case to hold their cards.
I don't use them because 1. what if something slips out somehow and 2. damn you lose your phone and wallet in one.
We don't just leave shit hanging loose lol. We still have credit cards and drivers licenses to hold.
Some would argue that is still a wallet, just a wallet with a magnet to attach to stuff.
I use my wallet to store ma drugz
But then that comes with the tradeoff of being unable to use Qi charging
I got a magnetic one that you can snap off to charge wirelessly.
i had one of those wallet phone cases and lost my phone. luckily it was at pride and whoever found it was not an asshole. tracked the phone and got it back, and thankfully didnt get my card used or stolen. i learned that day.
(i only lost it that once. just my luck lol)
I have one of these that has a tracker in it, so even if my phone dies, I can find both my wallet and my phone.
I usually get plastic sleeves with those, so yes, I just have a stack of cards in my pocket. At least I can fit it in together with a phone.
Although I don't know how to deal with coins. A jacket brings me extra pockets at least, which is why I can more or less only use cash during winter.
Buying a wallet requires a choice. Searching for something right, and I am too lazy for that, so in the pocket it goes. Unfortunately, I often lack pockets. So if I am not traveling, I'll just leave out my phone, so I can still fit in keys, cards, and a shopping bag. After all, I don't need a phone most of the time anyway.
In Denmark those are all available on your phone.
Yes, and if your phone runs out of battery, gets stolen or simply dies in any way, you won't have access to them.
My phone battery doesn't die, I have to charge it every night though.
Bold of you to assume your phone will never fail you.
Everything fails. Do you know how many times I've forgotten my wallet various places? My phone just fails less.
Which is why having everything on the same place is a bigger risk than having the phone and the wallet.
How is it a bigger risk? Two things = two things to lose. Especially since the tile in the wallet is worse than find my in the phone.
Ever heard of the saying "never put all the eggs in the same basket"? It's harder to lose two different things at the same time than to lose one. You might lose your wallet but keep your phone or viceversa, but it's way more difficult to lose both at the same time if they are in separate pockets. Also, paper documents work even if they get damaged, a phone might not.
I've heard of it, but have you heard of minimizing an attack surface? Your overall risk goes down if you can minimize it.
You can't make a phone smaller than it is. You are putting all your eggs on the same basket. You lose one, you lose everything. And, as I said, losing is not just forgetting it somewhere. You can drop it without noticing, you could get pickpocketed, you could damage it accidentally... You do you, but you are not minimizing the risk by having everything important on the same place and trusting your everything to one single item.