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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 109 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Shooting at fleeing suspects is absolutely not legal without actual articulable facts that they pose a threat to the public. This isn't even a legal defense.

[–] DrPop@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

I mean, this administration has made it very clear that ICE gets to call the shots and declare whatever they want. There is no oversight. That's on purpose.

[–] Sonicdemon86@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It would seem they are training the public to fight for their lives when ICE comes knocking. At some point ICE thugs will be ran over, shot, or stabbed if they keep doing this shit. Or maybe we'll just roll over and let them walk all over us, murder us in the streets, and be sent to die in a concentration camp.

[–] Fawkes@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

I think that's on purpose. When people recognize ICE is just as likely to murder them as arrest them, then they'll start fighting back.

Once people start fighting back, the administration can use that as justification to declare things like insurgencies and national emergencies.

Also, their propaganda works a lot better on morons when they can show their noble and loyal ~~gestapo~~ ~~pedophile protectors~~ police being attacked by ~~people defending themselves against tyrants~~ evil bad people.

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I think it's quite clear at this point that DHS agents are being told/trained that ANY moving vehicle is automatically a threat to their lives or the public simply by the nature of it being a moving vehicle.

[–] wulrus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In Germany a few years ago, police shot a fleeing non-violent weed dealer in the back of the head, instantly killing him. It was in a residential area, and the bullet flew right past a playing kid, iirc.

It was ruled a good shooting, as it would not be acceptable for the public safety to risk that he might have gotten away.

[–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

oh horrible weed, what ever will the public do if those horrible weed heads...checks notes...sit on their couch playing video games and eat too many chips

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago

You see, they were so concerned about the damage that a single (allegedly) illegal immigrant could cause to the community that they had to act immediately.

Even it were legal, it's still incredibly stupid. Shooting the driver turns a controlled vehicle into an uncontrolled vehicle, which is way more dangerous. You're basically guaranteeing that the car is going to hit something or someone and cause collateral damage.