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I once found a page that would show you what permanent DST or Standard time would look like in your area, but cannot find it now. Anyone know a link to something like that?
I don't know the page you're taking about, but I found this map years ago. It changed me from being a lifelong "make DST permanent" stan to stumping for permanent standard time.
People on the westernmost sides of time zones would get absolutely hosed in the mornings under permanent DST.
This makes no sense? I could care less that I get to see the sun on my way to sit at a desk at 7am.
I want to have the sun after I'm off work to enjoy my life. DST is way better
Hosed how?
My question exactly.
Under ST in the winter it’s dark when I get up and go to work, and it’s dark when I come home. Under DT, it would be the same.
In the summer, it’s sunny when I’m still trying to sleep in the morning and still sunny when I’m trying to sleep at night. Under ST it would be the same.
The only difference would be in spring and fall, when the transition time would shift earlier or later.
Yeah, I always hate it when I'm waking up to an alarm.
I think the was the same/similar map that I saw. It also let you put in a date and it would show you was times sun rise/set would roughly be.
Those lines need to be adjusted away from state borders. Those also cause problems.
Time zone lines tend to follow state borders.
Yes. That’s the problem.
While I agree those lines aren't ideal, any other system would make it very hard to know when to adjust your watch up or down
I’m just saying that the natural borders of light don’t correlate with the borders of the state In some cases really skew the time.
Why is that. A problem? You have to have the line somewhere. It's better if it goes along an already existing imaginary line. If they didn't line up, you would need to remember sets of arbitrary lines instead of 1.
It’s so weird that Hawaii is listed here because they don’t observe DST and they probably won’t jump ahead an hour just to sync up times with us.
I don't, but that seems like a pretty easy thing to calculate. timeanddate.com (or your local weather service, probably) will give you times for sunrise and sunset on any given day; just:
Unless you're in the southern hemisphere, then flip those two.
So if you're in New York:
Add an hour per time zone going west to figure out what the times for each time zone would be. Also, New York is pretty near the center of what the UTC-5 time zone would be if it were just a straight longitudinal band, so if you're near the eastern edge of your time zone it'll be about a half hour earlier than that, and if you're near the western edge of your time zone it'll be about a half hour later than that.
Personally, that 4:30 summer sunrise sounds brutal. Almost as brutal as the 4:30 sunset that they currently have in the winter. But I dunno, I feel like I could adapt to anything given enough time.
I'm originally from Indianapolis, which is in Eastern but practically on the border with Central, so the winter solstice would be 9:00 AM - 6:30 PM in permanent DST and the summer solstice would be 5:15 AM - 8:15 PM in permanent standard. But I'm in Auckland currently, so worldwide permanent DST would actually line me up pretty nicely with my friends back home, which could be cool.
Here in Maine, the sun rises around 4:50 AM on the summer solstice. That would be 3:50 AM if it was standard time, even worse.
Yuck, definitely.