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The good thing: It's voluntary for companies. The bad thing is: For now.
Signal will not comply, so all the more reason to use this.
But the big companies (meta, Google etc) will definitely use this. If only to get them an itsy bitsy tiny more data about people. Sorry, I meant the ability to protect the children of course.
The EU in itself is a really good thing, but with this they really fucked up, putting the absolutely dubious way to reach this goal aside.
Climate change, wars, rise of Nazi parties everywhere, aren't we fucked enough already?
Chat Control 1.0 was passed 5 years ago. For whatever reason big companies still don't use it. Most likely they simply don't see the point. They know breaking E2E would hurt their reputation, GDPR still applies and the cost of implementing all this is simply to high to justify it. I'm also guessing they don't really want to be held legally responsible for what people send to each other in any way so prefer not to take part in policing it.
Extending Chat Control 1.0 doesn't change any of this so I don't think meta or Google will take advantage of it now.
https://blog.google/company-news/inside-google/around-the-globe/google-europe/reaffirming-commitment-to-child-safety/
They really want to protect the children. And want to continue their scanning. For the greater good of cause.
But to think they won't be taking advantage of this is, at least in my opinion, giving them too much credit. These companies would sell their grandmothers if they had one.
So why do you think they are not doing it? This law is not new. What are they waiting for and when will they start doing it?
Forgive me, I was being sarcastic and tend to forget it sometimes does not translate very well in written text.
They are definitely doing it. From day one onwards. Business as usual for these companies. At least that's what I believe.
Why do you think they are hiding it if it's legal and well justified? (protecting children and so on?)
This is not about breaking E2E, it's client side scanning. I'm pretty sure they would be able to do it without the public getting mad about it, same as most people accept age verification. Introducing some client side scanning would not hurt their reputation. It's legal, EU lets then do it. So why hide it? They would be detecting a lot of people sending CP to one another but they would just have to ignore it. If they would report it they would be admitting that they are secretly scanning the messages. If they don't report it they risk lawsuits.
IMHO it just doesn't make sense for them to do it in secret. If they saw benefit in it they would just do it in the open.
Client side scanning is not yet here and won't come with the current law. The can scan cloud storage and, if possible, messages. Voluntarily, the are not forced, but they are eager to do it. Client side scanning will come with the next iteration of the law which isn't just here yet. And hopefully will never come.
We're talking about client side scanning of messages here. This is what Chat Control is about. What 'client side scanning' are you talking about?
So I will ask again: why aren't they? The are eager, it's legal, it's been legal for 5 years. Why aren't they doing it?
Why are you saying it will not come with current law? Chat Control 1.0 is about client side scanning of messages. Chat Control 2.0 doesn't change that, it still protects E2E. Chat Control 2.0 is more about age verification, not about scanning messages. I don't think we're even talking about same thing.
I think so too. English isn't my first language, though I was pretty confident in my explanation, but it seems somewhere somewhat was lost in translation I guess.
Long story short, they are scanning your cloud storage and unencrypted messages. Finished.
Yes, that's obvious. They don't hide it. It has also nothing to do with Chat Control.