cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/49701814
this post was submitted on 22 Jul 2026
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So how many times does a republican have to win until you listen to a socialist?
I'd love to listen to more socialists like Mamdani and Janeese Lewis George who understand the value of pragmatism. Unfortunately internet socialists are often just contrarian campists, so I tend to not listen to them.
If you haven't checked it out already, I started a community specifically to discuss pragmatic leftist theory: https://sh.itjust.works/c/PLT
It's not terribly active, especially since PugJesus quit the fediverse, but the whole point is pragmatism
How many times does a Republican have to win before you realize socialism isn't popular enough yet to succeed as a third party?
Bernie would have beaten Donald Trump.
BERNIE LOST THE POPULAR VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES BOTH TIMES.
The popular vote is ACTUAL VOTERS. That means ACTUAL VOTERS didn't like him enough for him to win the primaries.
Christ. It's 2026. Let the Bernie thing go. I liked him too. I still like him. Doesn't mean he's popular with America as a whole.
Now take what I just said and apply it to socialism.
It ain't gonna fly in America yet. Not gonna happen.
BABY STEPS
You guys seem to be seriously fucked.
And? He lost the primary and he didn't run third party. His endorsement of Hillary proves my point.
My point is, look for alternatives instead of voting for something you don't want. That's the idea of democracy.
Non-viable alternatives aren't alternatives.
Who tells you what's viable?
That's just dumb. Vote against the worst probable outcome. The idea of democracy is consensus. If your alternative doesn't reach consensus, it's just a spoiler against the less bad option. If we had ranked choice voting it would be a different story, but we don't, so it isn't.
How many times does a Republican have to win before you get it? Vote strategically, and find your alternatives outside the election. Protest voting is impotent posturing that risks the worst outcome with literally no material benefit.
I'm just glad I live in a country with multiple voting options.
Yeah that would be nice. Not the present reality for Americans though.
I'd be fine with this, but the US is still not leaving the rest of the world alone.
What else is new? The leftists of the US have no influence on foreign policy. Throwing their vote away on an "alternative" which will, at most, get single percent results doesn't make the US leave the rest of the world alone. In fact, it draws votes away from the slightly less terrible party, which makes it a net loss. If you want the US to leave the rest of the world alone, the last thing you want is for leftists to vote third party.
In a system where power is granted by votes, why bother listening to the dipshits who don't vote?
What has your vote resulted in other than a right wing hellscape enabled by democrats?
When has your nonvote ever resulted in other than the current right-wing hellscape enabled by you?
You really shouldn't attach your ideology to every goofball comment; you give off the impression all communists are whiney indignant teenagers. Hell, you're even tempting me further away from atheism, like you've shat your pants on the subway XD
Be better. If you can only make your voice heard in internet comments and not voting booths, you frankly don't deserve to be heard.