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Voting / politics is a chess game. Sometimes you have to plan ahead and work from behind and sacrifice some positions. Refusing to play the pieces you have (even from a losing position) is just letting the opponent win.
If there’s a better primary challenger than Newsom, a Progressive candidate, I’m all for them. I want them. I don’t want Newsom, but if it comes down to him or another trump clone, Newsom is good enough to at least keep us from societal collapse.
Refusing to vote for him because he’s not a perfect fit is just giving the enemy a win. See: all those who refused to vote for Harris and now we have trump.
There’s no viable 3rd party candidate. Probably never will be.
Lmao i saw this same comment in 2016
Just save this post and you can use it every 8 years until we are killing each other for clean water
Ok. So how do we “abandon the duopoly?” Honest question. If you have a viable suggestion, I am all for it. Because refusing to vote is what trump wants you to do.
I think your view of "perfect" might be different than most people
Ok then let trump’s successor win.
Well, maybe the Democrats could put up a candidate that the voters want, for a change.
But that’s not happening. So now what?
Then we're fucked. Start looking at parties and organizations that are doing something to help out, instead of simping for a party that is actively supporting the fascists.
So to use another analogy, I’d rather “tread water” (vote for the lesser of two evils) in this river of raw sewage we’re stuck in, rather than “drown” in it (let greater evil win by voting against the lesser evil).
At least while treading water, we can still try to find someone who is doing something to help out.
For fuck’s sake, I’m not “simping for Newsom,” I’m just aware that he’s better than trump. At least we can see the horizon with him.
If Newsome was "treading water", I'd be fine with him. But he's not. He's attacking destroying the lives of homeless people. Throwing Trans people to the wolves. He's not "Lesser Neutral", he's "Lesser Evil".
How are we going to find something to help out with the Democrats actively fighting against us?
You are simping. You are defending a person that would throw you under the bus in a heartbeat. Yes he's better than Trump, but that doesn't make him acceptable. Continuing to accept people like him is how we ended up with Trump.