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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 21 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Russian doesn't have definite/indefinite articles?

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

it doesn't really use article at all.

it's highly cased, the cases and inflection do all the work.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That doesn't sound more simple.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

English has strict word order and all these stupid helper words, how is that simpler?

By being the devil we know, I guess? 🤷🏻

Lol. English is the opposite of simple.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago

Ok, it is relatively simple to learn for the indogerman family. And looks like, for chinese/korean/japanese as well.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The case are quite complicated, yes. But not having articles is way simpler. And I can’t say it ever caused confusion growing up.

[–] PostingInPublic@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

And they aren't clear when to use them either, it's kinda cute when they look at you questioningly if they did correctly after formulating a sentence.

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Neither does Polish. I know at least one polaka who confuses the/a(n) 15% of the time.

[–] addie@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

One of my Polish colleagues, who otherwise speaks pretty perfect English, seems to choose he/she/it at random when putting sentences together. Which is fine for objects, but misleading for people. "I saw a friend yesterday and she said such-and-such" for a male friend, and so on.

[–] DeLancre@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago

Slavic languages notoriously have gender for every object. In russian "friend" have two variants, one for male gender, one for female. Same at least with Ukrainian and Serbian. So when I translate sentence to English (which only have one word for "friend") I subconsciously use default word + she/he to empathize gender.

It's annoying habit, cause when I say or refer to "user" for example, I always assume it's "he/him".

Guess same for your colleagues.

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

...which sounds surprising to me, because AFAIK Polish also has separate he/she words (on/ona).

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I assume he's aligning the pronouns to the gender of the noun, rather than the person. "Susie is a great worker, he's very efficient" kind of stuff.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'd be surprised if there weren't a female "worker" in Polish, "workeress" as it were, same for any other such nouns.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Depends on the exact word. For example, person is grammatically female, even if the actual person isn't. Or, a lot of times you can make a different form, but you don't strictly need to.

It's actually somewhat of an ongoing debate in places WRT professions: declaring whatever the current word is to be gender neutral, or having mandatory versions for both male and female (German /inen approach).

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 2 points 1 day ago

Most (if not all) Slavic-family languages do not. Neither do Japanese nor Korean. Some languages have a partial system (i.e. no a/an but the to show definiteness). Some languages have both but do it differently (Scandanavian languages suffix the definite article on nouns, but the indefinite precedes the noun like in English). Languages are messy and neat.

[–] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

I think it's the case with most Slavic languages. My wife's native tongue is Serbian, and knowinf when and how to use articles was one the hardest parts of learning English for her.