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[–] kungen@feddit.nu -2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That wasn't the question. My question was, how would he be benefiting from me taking his money?

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You don’t see how it’s immoral to take funding from Epstein?

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I can also dodge questions by asking a different question. Is it immoral to steal from billionaires?

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It’s essentially signing off on his other actions by engaging in business as usual after his conviction.

I didn’t think I needed to spell that out to anyone who wasn’t an Epstein supporter.

[–] kungen@feddit.nu -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Maybe it's some kind of language barrier, but my definition of business is "any activity or enterprise entered into for profit". So again, where would his profit be in giving me money with no strings attached?

How do you get so caught up in thinking wrong? I asked a hypothetical question and you're acting like I'd ever support him? The only negative thing about him being killed is that his victims can't get retribution.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's the soft power of being charitable. There's reasons that the rich fund projects like this - it's to make people like you defend them even after they've committed terrible crimes against humanity.

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

make people like you defend them

I have never defended anyone with excessive wealth in my entire life, and especially not a sex trafficker or other criminals. Do you normally slander people, or what's your problem with putting false words into someone else's mouth?

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You are arguing with me right here and right now how it should be totally OK to take this predator's funding.

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No, I have never done that. You're slandering me yet again.

A refresher: I originally asked what the problem would be. And then it took me asking 4 different times before you gave the answer "soft power". You could have just done that originally, instead of being toxic and insulting me.

Not everyone is as smart as you, why do you have to be such a jerk about it?

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

"Just asking questions"

I have no patience for someone asking why taking funding from Epstein is a bad thing. Read the post. There's a reason DinoCon put their foot down. They BANNED those scientists who thought the same as you. It's deplorable. It's right there in the post from DinoCon.

Everyone should have no tolerance for allowing this behavior to go unchallenged. That's one of the main reasons Epstein was so successful.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What about people doing business with Trump? What about people doing business with the U.S. government under Trump? What about all federal government jobs? What about working for any company that gets any kind of direct or indirect federal subsidies?

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 hour ago

The US government is different than an individual like Epstein.

If they were dealing with Trump as a businessman and not the president, I'd have the same view.

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 0 points 55 minutes ago (2 children)

"Just asking questions"

Not fully understanding why no-strings-attached money is a bad thing, isn't the same thing as sealioning.

You've wasted so much time trying to justify your toxic outbursts instead of simply saying "soft power" from the start. Then you could have used your time and energy for something more productive. Do you get joy out of this or what?

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 50 minutes ago (1 children)

I’m sure the women you work with would be so pleased to know that the pursuit of science is much more important than holding a sex-trafficking rapist and pedophile accountable.

Also I did answer you right here in one of my first comments.

The pursuit of science should not be more important than holding a sex-trafficking rapist and pedophile accountable.

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 0 points 31 minutes ago (1 children)

To be fair, I honestly stopped reading after I saw it was a personal attack, because people who feel the need to stoop that low don't usually have anything to contribute to a discussion. Can you blame me? I come here for normal discussions, not Reddit-tier personal attacks.

Not to mention, that still didn't answer it, because I didn't understand until other people explained it that no-strings-attached money would actually be a moral issue.

Grow up and stop being a toxic asshole on an obscure internet board.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 28 minutes ago* (last edited 27 minutes ago)

Grow up and stop acting like it's confusing that sex criminals shouldn't be allowed to do business after they've raped children.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 52 minutes ago

The answer is obvious from the post itself.

If DinoCon can correctly identify why it's bad to take funding from Epstein after his conviction, why are you in the comments asking questions to justify taking dirty money?

Think about it from any of Epstein's victims point of view. That the world continued to do business with Epstein, to protect him, to shield him from consequences because....of money.