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[–] Napster153@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Secularism funneling the way to identity and materialist cultism is going to be a talking point amongst historians. I'm calling it.

People couldn't fathom many different historical events happening before until they did, in which case, we have to hope the next generation learns well to stop the loopholes.

I'm not sure you know what those words mean

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

oh, the good old religion. it is a good thing that it was never focused on brainwashing people so it could accumulate money in order to gain political power, so they could keep brainwashing people and keep accumulating money... oh, wait, that is exactly what it did!

yeah, your life is shitty now, but don't worry, it will all get better in the eternal afterlife!

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean I'd bet good money it's a talking point right now somewhere. It's not particularly hard to notice if you're willing to interrogate secularism for flaws. Turns out taking away religious identity just replaces it with other identities that aren't necessarily more pleasant.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nationalism is probably the big one. This is less obvious in the West where the transition is more or less complete (even religious people in the West tend to be nationalist first and religious second), but in (my corner of) the third world people pushing for secularism tend to basically simultaneously push for nationalism and vice versa.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nationalism is a flaw of secularism? Absurd.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

Not quite, more that even without religion people need something to identify with and in the modern day that tends to almost always be nationalism.