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[–] wrinkledoo@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I think democrats are controlled opposition, but do people not understand that they currently aren't in power?

The fed is run by the GOP. Dems are only enough of a problem that Trump has to write EOs for every goddamned thing.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Maybe if Biden had written EOs for every goddamned thing we wouldn't be in this mess.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He didn't have the advantage of SCOTUS backing everything he wrote.

In fact, the US Supreme Court actively opposed him.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well it's a good thing he didn't try then. Things would be so much worse.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Biden was a centrist Democrat who tried to get progressive in his presidential term, but yes, it was a too little too late.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm agreeing with you, but I'm also pointing out that "too little, too late" is being very, verrrrry generous.

Biden had the perfect slam-dunkingly solid golden sure win opportunity(s) to take out FatCunt ChildRaper for a myriad of blatantly illegal things. The main stars of which were the televised attempt at an insurrection, and the stealing of top secret documents which were stored in an unlocked room next to a fax...A FAX!!!.
Plus many other things that would be just as easy to prosecute because, let's face it, the orange imbecile and family aren't criminal geniuses.
But, no, instead of going for the tRUMP from day one the old dipshit just slow walked that bullshit for years...then it wasn't his problem anymore.
I didn't exactly like Biden when he was elected, but I now actively hate the guy for doing fuck all. The whole world is a much worse place because Biden is a coward.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago

slow walking trumps trials and giving him press for a whole year was a big mistake, and this includes doing nothing about epstein files.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There was no small amount of obstruction from the Republican party and SCOTUS. It was a while before Garland was appointed AG. Judge Cannon raised some weird challenges to the investigations and indictments against Trump, including his unlawful possession of classified documents.

And then SCOTUS gave Trump immunity for everything he did in office, essentially requiring any challenges to that immunity be taken up with the captured Supreme Court itself.

There were a tuckfun of shenanigans played to delay until Biden's term was over. And then the voters had the audacity to elect Trump for a second term, with full awareness of what kind of monster he was.

Essentially, the voters of the US decided to let him get away with it, and take over the federal government to rob the treasury.

To quote Jamille Bouie, To think that the American people did that [elected Trump as President], to think that is the reality of the situation, raises difficult questions about this country, difficult questions about our capacity for self government.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sounds like you're admitting Biden couldn't get the job done.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Sounds like you're trying to reduce a complex, nuanced situation to naïve, simplistic terms.

I don't understand the point of your comment, assuming it was made in good faith.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Liberals have been hiding behind excuses of nuance and complexity for decades. Since fighting fascism is clearly too complicated for you to manage please step aside so leftists and progressives can get the job done.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

But I am a leftist.

So what mutual aid org are you working for?

ETA: Neoliberalism is what got us here in the first place. Progressive policies will delay the collapse but won't stop the fascist onslaught, and the leftist policies that matter are unpopular and way out of reach of the overton window.

So yeah, I'm open to any fresh ideas. I've also looked and have none, only to get involved and offer what I can to the meager local resistance efforts.

Multiple economists, including Nobel laureates observe the only way out of this mess is to redistribute all the wealth at the top. And if we don't do that, the oligarchs that are fleecing the US will come for the rest of the developed world. And in the meantime water is running out.

So, please, tell the class how to organize twelve million Americans.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Simple: Stop letting the kind of people who vote for Biden and Clinton in the democratic primaries believe they're on the right side of history.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If it was simple, you would have done it already.

The median American voter doesn't care to be on the right side of history. Thay want stability, and, as the 2024 election showed us, they're neither bright nor civically responsible about it.

In fact, the whole southern strategy relies on the notion US people vote on bigotry and vibes. And thus will gladly elect a confidence player who lies to them. It keeps working no matter how bad the last Republican was.

But we weren't talking about general elections, were we? We were talking about mass group action. General strikes. Civil disobedience. Large scale noncooperation.

For that, you'll need to organize twelve million Americans.

How are you going to do that?

What are you doing to help?

TBH, I haven't found my place in the effort either. But I research the snot out of the matter, and try to be informative at group meets. I don't think that's enough to move the needle, though.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Simple doesn't mean easy.

And there are multitudes of people fighting the good fight to defend the kinds of people who show up to the Democratic primaries and vote for the likes of Biden, Clinton and Newsom.

Stop defending them.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 3 weeks ago

No, Trump took abortion from us when he got to appoint three captured Federalist Society justices on SCOTUS. it just took a couple of years to die.

Next, you'll be saying he lost Afghanistan, when Trump arranged US surrender.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

who tried to get progressive

Uhhh.. What?

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Nah Biden was a conservative who did conservative things his entire term.

  1. Blocked a strike
  2. Supported genocide
  3. Ripped out every progressive policy from the BBB called it the IRA and declared it a victory.
  4. Sabotaged his own student loan forgiveness effort.
  5. Fought against work from home policies.

Biden was an pro-corporate, pro-genocidal piece of shit who deserves to be in prison.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe if Obama had done something about Russian election interference on behalf of trump in 2016, we wouldn't be in this mess.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 weeks ago

Most American American to ever America gets elected as president.

Dems: Russia did it!!

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most of us don't want our government to work that way

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well you got what you wanted. Now what?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How, pray tell, did I get what I wanted?

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You didn't want Biden to sign a bunch of EOs. He didn't. You got what you wanted. Trump is president now. Now what?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well he signed an EO to forgive my student loans, and that was fought tooth and nail, eventually stopped by SCOTUS

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lol this ought to be good. Did you read their reasoning why?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So you want the president to seize more power than they legally have and for that escalation to continue whether a fascist is in office or not. Yeah great plan.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Let republicans do it only, then. Great plan!

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Well Biden didn't so you got what you wanted. Now what?

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's the problem. The gop is always in control whether they have a majority or not.

Democratic party with a supermajority: can barely pass a conservative health insurance reform bill with zero repub votes after bargaining themselves out of any actual good parts.

GOP with a one vote majority: mandate of the people; they get everything they want and there's nothing the dems can do to stop it.

[–] wrinkledoo@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Again, I understand that they're controlled opposition, but the "wHy doNt dEms dO sOmeThIng" is just useless hot air when they aren't in a position to do anything.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

They are in the same position the GOP was when they shut down any progress the democrats pretended to try to do when they had the majority.

[–] curve@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If op bothered to post the whole thread you'd see they are doing something but a complicit media doesn't report on any of that.

This kind of propaganda has worked wonders on all the brightest folks here. Doing its job superbly.

[–] chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

Okay, help us out then, what are they doing?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

do people not understand that they currently aren't in power?

There's not much people understand. But they will 100% confidently talk about anything like they know it all.