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False equivalence, saying this needs to be resolved diplomatically as soon as possible in order to avoid Ukraine losing even more negotiating power, inevitable economic and population collapse and fall into more Western debt for for the Russia-NATO proxy war does not support the Russian invasion and is objectively better for the average Ukrainian cause yes, war is terrible, Ukraine is caught in the cross fire of an inter-imperialist war, many socialists rightfully dismiss it to avoid taking the side of and escalate either NATO or Russia but of the average Ukrainian worker.
Lol, just lol. Ukraine arent "caught in the crossfire" they are the ones under attack. You betray your intent.
Yes, Ukranian soldiers are the meatgrinder for NATO to harm Russia in a forever war, you got my point!
Does that argumentative technique work for you usually?
Resolved by diplomacy is just a thin veil on Ukraine needs to capitulate and give Russia whatever it wants.
This isn't Ukraine being caught in an inter imperial crossfire, they are being directly invaded.
Like imagine if someone made this same point about one of dozens of countries the US invaded. Like saying the Vietnamese should have just immediately surrendered to the US, or saying Iran should have just surrendered and given them whatever they want. You'd be out here calling the person a boot licker and rightly so.
It's hard to do diplomacy when your opponent doesn't even believe your country is real...