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[–] marcos@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yes, tankies are fascists and think almost exactly like MAGA.

I'm not sure socialism as a concept even makes sense when used together with authoritarianism. "Far left" looks like it's exclusively a made-up label for some flags the Alt-Right uses.

[–] redparadise@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"not sure socialism as a concept even makes sense when used together with authoritarianism"

True, only anti-marxist socialism is actual socialism™

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What exactly are you distributing if people don't have human rights?

If the government is authoritarian, it seems to me that it's automatically not socialist.

[–] redparadise@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Have these gentlemen ever seen a revolution? A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon — authoritarian means, if such there be at all; and if the victorious party does not want to have fought in vain, it must maintain this rule by means of the terror which its arms inspire in the reactionists. Would the Paris Commune have lasted a single day if it had not made use of this authority of the armed people against the bourgeois? Should we not, on the contrary, reproach it for not having used it freely enough?"

  • Frederick Engels

Name one country that is not "authoritarian", authoritarianism especially nowadays is a buzzword to dismiss whatever you don't like, every state is authoritarian, the question is who is it against, the workers or the capitalists, unsurprisingly a revolution in a reactionary capitalist world needs to sufficiently use authority to even survive the reaction.

[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Bakunin had previously participated in three different revolutions at the time this was written

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'd say Engels is a clear example. And yeah, most likely revolutions themselves can't be socialist at all.

[–] redparadise@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

...are you saying Marx and Engels are tankie fascists?

[–] Cosmonaut@lemmy.today -3 points 1 day ago

Liberals have exact same stance on imperialism as MAGA

hence liberals = fascists

I’m not sure socialism as a concept even makes sense when used together with authoritarianism

So you support anti marxist socialism? i.e. utopian socialism? lol.