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[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It's only imperialism if it's being produced in the special empire

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If it doesn't come from the regions of the Western Imperialist Pigs then it's not real imperialism. It's sparkling annexation.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No, no, no - it's no annexaion, it's freeing people (as I got from some tankie about China's occupation of Tibet).

Mind you, all Imperialists (no matter from which region) tend to claim they're freeing the people they're attacking - America and its allies are constantly "freeing" people in the Middle East from some autoritarian or other all the while leaving behind 10x - 100x more dead than the dictator ever killed, Russia claimed to be invading to free Ukranians from Nazism.

Even the Genociders claim they're somehow freeing people: notice Israel's talk about how the Palestineans treat homosexuals badly, all the while they were indiscriminatelly mass murdering people in Gaza, including said homosexuals.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're only being upvoted because people think you're being sarcastic, but I know you're being serious because I've seen you do this before.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

No? I suspect you are talking about threads where I've been saying that the Russian-Ukranian war must be stopped, threads where I defended/explained some Putin's talking points, and literally telling people that there's no difference between deaths of Ukrainian civilians and Russian civilians, the fact that killing more Russians will not grant Ukraine victory. I also recall a few threads where I called out literal neonazis in Ukraine and got downvoted by Ukraine larping supporters from the left to hell.

I have never defended Putin's expansionism and have always called it imperialism.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

So you're against the war, but only when it means criticizing Ukraine?

Not full-strength kremlin propaganda then, just kremlin propaganda lite. Got it.

How about you tell everyone that the war could end in a day if Putin simply decides to pull his troops out of Ukraine? I don't recall you ever mentioning that.

Oh, by the way, there's a substantial difference between one or two collateral civilian casualties now and then, and deliberate targeting of civilians and civilian infrastructure, killing them in the thousands, as well as detaining, displacing, torturing, and raping them.

The fact that you try so hard to draw a false equivalence between the two, is itself kremlin propaganda.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 weeks ago

No, no,no, you must choose sides, good or bad, black or white.
No such thing as nuance or critical thinking on the internet, get with the program.

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Otherwise it's... Sparkling fascism?

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Otherwise it's a defense against imperialism

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So... Are you saying that Russia invasion of Ukraine is Russia's defence against Ukraine imperial expansion?

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 0 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, in the current tankie narrative it is:

Only the US can perform imperial expansion, therefore Russia's invasion into Ukraine is the defense against US expansion. Go ask ml guys, they'll confirm it