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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Problem is, Obama left Trump an incredible economy. People that don't pay attention think Trump deserved credit for this.

Similarly, Biden was left a smoldering pile of ash from Trump. Inflation was real, and even if it could be blamed on covid, Biden was not a good messenger, so everybody just blamed him and Harris.

So maybe people saw this question and thought, do I prefer the economy of 2016-2020 or 2020-2024?

People are dumb. Another interesting one is "Who do you trust to handle crime?". Somehow the felon wins that one too.

[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Trump was also heading into a recession pre covid

Covid took the blame for his shit policies and somehow he even still managed to fuck up the absolute softball that covid gave him to rally support. It was his 9/11 style major event. I was sure he'd win again while following it. Instead he completely blundered it thankfully... then somehow he won again with tiny doomed rallies stranding supporters in the middle of no where. I'll never understand his supporters 😔

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Im not entirely convinced there wasnt shit fuckery going on last election

Some evidence is trickling out that it was mucked up. Purged (heavily democratic) voter registrations, ignored mail ins, etc etc

[–] Alexfire@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

True, economy recovered better than most after pandemic, as companies price gouged, people bought the propaganda and blamed Dems. And they will elect a maga majority again after a short Dem period, where they can't fix it all quickly enough for them. Real progress can't be made, and any good legislation gets blocked or repealed in a few years by maga, destruction is much faster than building good things, and the wealthy keep taking more.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Problem is, Obama left Trump an incredible economy

For the rich, sure. For everyone else, the cracks in the Neoliberal foundation laid by the likes of Reagan had already been starting to show.

That's a big part of why a personally repulsive and obviously corrupt demagogue like Trump could ever be taken seriously as a candidate, let alone win twice.

Biden was left a smoldering pile of ash from Trump

This part is true, but he still did a piss poor job shepherding the kind of reforms that could have staunched the bleeding somewhat and prevented the return of the Mango Mussolini.

Biden was not a good messenger

Or good on policy. Nor did the lukewarm and frankly cowardly approach of him and his AG towards holding Trump and his cronies accountable for their multitude of crimes help.

Delaying/denying justice to "not seem to be politicizing the legal process" IS politicizing it.

People are dumb. Another interesting one is "Who do you trust to handle crime?". Somehow the felon wins that one too.

Yeah, time and again, gaslighting media narratives beat the objectively experienced reality.

Truth is that the Dem leadership is awful and has been since the late 70s but ESPECIALLY since 1992, but the GOP has always been much worse in almost every aspect, ESPECIALLY the economy and their treatment of anyone they deem "the others".

But the billionaire-owned media spins the grotesque demagoguery of reverse Robin Hood economics and draconian oppression of poor people and racial minorities (and especially combinations of both) through the "justice" system as "being responsible" and people eat it up because it's the default narrative they're used to being treated as fundamental truth even though it's one of the worst lies ever told.

Not just dumb people, btw, the vast majority of ALL people. Propaganda is MUCH more effective than most of its victims are willing/able to recognize.

This part is true, but he still did a piss poor job shepherding the kind of reforms that could have staunched the bleeding somewhat and prevented the return of the Mango Mussolini.

Do not discount the fact that mitch and other repugnants outright said they will block every single measure Biden tries to put out just so they can not give him a meaningful win and make him look bad. They fucked over the American people for their own political gain.