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rw slop trolling.
see this is what’s so scary to me is i can literally say “i am a progressive leftist and i want progressive leftists and social democrats (edit: and democratic socialists) to win”
and i’ll still get accused of being “right wing” (what i assume you mean by “rw”, correct me if im wrong) for not… diving on the sword for the imperialism-condoning “I call it Crimea river, a Russian river bitch” guy?
i just want human rights and healthcare sadge
I thought Abdul was a democratic socialist, not a social democrat?
he’s actually not DSA but he does have the approval of some DSA members. Mamdani is DSA. clarified in the edit!
Socdems succ off the dems (okay they're further left than the US Democrats but it's funny). Demsocs are dem socialists
He literally pulled out some kind of right-libertarian dogwhistle during live interview 😂
I'm not sure how that's a dog whistle for the right... The right HATES science and it comes off to me like he's making a point about what works instead of playing stupid word games.
They don't hate science, they hate "soyience". The kind that tells you that trans people exist and black people aren't inferior. This is how most of them think.
And I said right-LIBERTARIANS. I'm not talking about MAGA etc. I'm talking about the Ayn Rand people who won't let you touch a specific hard drive in their house for some weird reason.
Is that you in the video? You're no better than the right in my opinion. Also playing words games and saying nothing useful with no hard evidence.
Sorry, I thought that the words coming out of his mouth on video was enough. Silly me.
And no I'm not a YouTuber what the hell are you talking about 🤣
Your entire reply to me was about things you "said"... You didn't say them in this reply chain as far as I can tell. But I'm not going to go around searching for your other comments.
Anyways. I hold out for Abdul and he sends much more legitimate to me than most others claiming to be progressive.
I linked him saying the dog whistle shithead, that's what started the conversation, remember?
Or are you asking for the existence of the term soyience, because you can't Google it yourself?
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Soyience
Continue soyfacing for your favourite Dubai landlord 👍
Same! I am all for a candidate that works as intelligently as El-Sayed on policy helping material social issues, whether or not he claims to be socialist in name matters less to me than the people he’s working to help.
That's a 10 minute video, no thanks. Why don't you watch the video and then just spend two minutes telling Me what happened.
That's why I included the timestamp in the link?
He said "I don't believe in socialism, I believe in science."
Edit: Sorry, I guess it got borked for some reason. Timestamp is 2:00.
In no world is that a right wing libertarian dogwhistle let’s be so for real.
El-Sayed isn’t DSA and, while he has the approval of many DSA members, he is also free to moderate his speech to be effective in the unfortunately highly propagandized context of the American Midwest.
The right, conservatism, and especially fascism are all explicitly the ones associated with the denial of science so I am asking us not to kid ourselves here.
No, it very obviously is. Him being a Dubai landlord puts more weight behind it as well.
The U.S. currently has huge inertia in terms of leftism, but you continue wasting that on "I believe in science" and "Israeli Jews have a right to self-determination" candidates.
If only y'all had the courage to form a completely new, radical communist party from the ground up...
oh wow actually i didn’t know that one. do you have a source that isn’t the daily wire? but yeah that’s significant, he still has my endorsement for now but with that as an asterisk
also i am like totally down with supporting emerging parties/activist groups. do you have someone/something to point me towards? i’m just working with the assets we have for now.
https://factually.co/fact-checks/finance/does-sayed-own-foreign-property-d7fbf8
got it, so he’s not a landlord per se but there’s definitely some real estate entanglement with that could certainly be a conflict of interest liability. and it’s residential property too looks like. hasan piker’s mother i believe is also a residential property landlord and that disgusts me so i certainly apply the same principle here.
thanks for sharing! again this is genuinely new to me so i appreciate it.
He literally is. He has property in Dubai that he rents out. That's what landlord means. Doesn't matter if it's residential or not, I would even argue that that's worse.
no im definitely agreeing with you, residential is worse.
maybe you’re right about him being a landlord even though it’s his wife’s holdings, i’m not a real estate professional.
but the technicality doesn’t matter, i agree. the rent-seeking on residential land is the real issue. it’s real bad when donald trump does it, it’s real bad when piker’s mom does it, and it’s real bad when el-sayed does it. i hope he recognizes the error in his ways because that’s really gross.
He won't. That's why he openly calls himself a capitalist.
sounds good. we’ll see what we can fight for next primary then.
I don't. I live in Turkey. We have actual anarcho-socialistic and Marxist-Leninist parties in parliament here, even though they're heavily disliked by the general population for being "terrorists" and face constant persecution from the government. That's electoralism for you, but I can't really say much against them because they did try to revolt.
got it. i know for a fact i don’t fuck with marxist-leninism.
Have fun with capitalism 🤷♀️
the nice thing is that there aren’t just two socio-political-economic schools of thought in the universe lol
With ML being pretty much the most successful leftist ideology that has ever worked in actual practice.
I am not a mod but gently pointing out this rule in the sidebar
obviously i encourage doing your own source analysis toward your own conclusions—
but also the source they linked is basically the socialist-imperialist (tankie) version of right-wing conspiracy channels
proceed with caution is all i would say
I'd LOVE one example of him being an "imperialist", "tankie", or "conspiracy theorist".
BadEmpanada is not a trustworthy journalistic or subjective source heads up
How so?
I mean you've accepted a wholly right wing frame built to literally target hogs. How do you expect people to react to your regurgitation of right wing talking points.
Yeah it doesn't matter what you say, it matters what you do. People say one thing and do another all the time, and you are doing that right here.
You aren't doing what you say. You are doing this other thing, literally just accepting the slop that fascist media is shoving down the slop tubes like any other hog. Fox news and right wing corporate media have spent billions to get you, yes you to repeat their lines for them. And you ate it up like a lil' piggy. You doing the fascists work for them.
So if you want people to evaluate you differently, do different things.
okay thanks for sharing your thoughts, your exceeding rhetorical politeness is seen and appreciated